by Tom Ashbrook.

Sometimes you have to step way back to see what’s going on in the world. President Bush steps back, and sees a fight of good and evil. Writer James Carroll steps back and sees sixty-plus years of the Pentagon driving an American predilection toward war.

Carroll grew up the son of an Air Force general in the endless corridors of the five-sided heart of American military power in Washington. Today, he says, Americans are so deep in the grip of a war-making view of the world that they don’t even see it. And even the pushback of generals on Iraq won’t stop it.

Up next On Point: fear and loathing from World War II to Iraq – the case for America as prisoner of the Pentagon.

Guests:

James Carroll, author of the new book “House of War: The Pentagon and the Disatrous Rise of American Power”

Andrew Bacevich, professor of International Relations at Boston University and author of “The New American Militarism: How Americans are Seduced by War”