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	<title>Comments on: McCain and the Religious Right</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1854</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it really interesting that about ten minutes into the program, the guest is gushing about the Alaska governor about her &quot;decision&quot; to have a down&#039;s syndrome child.  I find it really strange that republicans are highlighting her decision when she Sarah Palin herself is advocating for taking that decision away from others.  I find it to be somewhat ironic for republicans to be using this language of the pro-choice crowd when in Sarah Palin&#039;s world there would never be a choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it really interesting that about ten minutes into the program, the guest is gushing about the Alaska governor about her &#8220;decision&#8221; to have a down&#8217;s syndrome child.  I find it really strange that republicans are highlighting her decision when she Sarah Palin herself is advocating for taking that decision away from others.  I find it to be somewhat ironic for republicans to be using this language of the pro-choice crowd when in Sarah Palin&#8217;s world there would never be a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1555</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;The biggest problem with the pro life movement in the past has not been its position on abortion as much as its concern with life being limited to birth and death. To me, being pro-life should be about life in all its aspects. God teaches us to care about others. Not just the unborn. We should care about the world we live in and the quality of life of the people in it.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

An approach like that is too obvious to appeal to the religious zealots who comprise the &quot;Christian&quot; right.

Over 90% of trisomy-21 fetuses are aborted.   A major reason for that is the &lt;b&gt;huge&lt;/b&gt; emotional and financial burden or raising a Down&#039;s child and supporting it into adulthood.   Obviously if someone &lt;b&gt;really&lt;/b&gt; cared about reducing the rate of abortions they would adbvocate a generous support program for the victims of such circumstances.

Likewise a &lt;b&gt;huge&lt;/b&gt; cause of other abortions is young or poor women finding themselves pregnant and looking forward to a life of impoverishment trying to raise a child, often alone.   But we as a society have already made it clear we don&#039;t want &quot;welfare mothers&quot;.

So there we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;The biggest problem with the pro life movement in the past has not been its position on abortion as much as its concern with life being limited to birth and death. To me, being pro-life should be about life in all its aspects. God teaches us to care about others. Not just the unborn. We should care about the world we live in and the quality of life of the people in it.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>An approach like that is too obvious to appeal to the religious zealots who comprise the &#8220;Christian&#8221; right.</p>
<p>Over 90% of trisomy-21 fetuses are aborted.   A major reason for that is the <b>huge</b> emotional and financial burden or raising a Down&#8217;s child and supporting it into adulthood.   Obviously if someone <b>really</b> cared about reducing the rate of abortions they would adbvocate a generous support program for the victims of such circumstances.</p>
<p>Likewise a <b>huge</b> cause of other abortions is young or poor women finding themselves pregnant and looking forward to a life of impoverishment trying to raise a child, often alone.   But we as a society have already made it clear we don&#8217;t want &#8220;welfare mothers&#8221;.</p>
<p>So there we are.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Hanlon</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1543</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Hanlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s program identified what I think is a core issue for those of us in the middle who are pro choice, but who would still like to see less abortions.   The biggest problem with the pro life movement in the past has not been its position on abortion as much as its concern with life being limited to birth and death.  To me, being pro-life should be about life in all its aspects.   God teaches us to care about others.   Not just the unborn.   We should care about the world we live in and the quality of life of the people in it.

  I think that many who are pro-life are starting to come around to that opinion as well and if so then perhaps we can have a new definition of pro-life that we can all support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s program identified what I think is a core issue for those of us in the middle who are pro choice, but who would still like to see less abortions.   The biggest problem with the pro life movement in the past has not been its position on abortion as much as its concern with life being limited to birth and death.  To me, being pro-life should be about life in all its aspects.   God teaches us to care about others.   Not just the unborn.   We should care about the world we live in and the quality of life of the people in it.</p>
<p>  I think that many who are pro-life are starting to come around to that opinion as well and if so then perhaps we can have a new definition of pro-life that we can all support.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher J</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1541</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great show today, Tom.  I liked the way you revisited yesterday&#039;s show and got the response of your panel.

I also enjoyed hearing from the panel itself today.  Not all conservatives are incapable of civil discourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great show today, Tom.  I liked the way you revisited yesterday&#8217;s show and got the response of your panel.</p>
<p>I also enjoyed hearing from the panel itself today.  Not all conservatives are incapable of civil discourse.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny G.</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1537</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See no inconsistancy with being pro-birth and calling it pro-life WHILE CUTTING FUNDING FOR CLINICS BECAUSE THEY GO BEYOND &quot;ABSTINENCE&quot; WHILE HELPING WOMEN - - Claim to be pro-life but support a planned war that the US was LIED into accepting, and Deja Vu, don&#039;t fund the needed services!!! What do I mean? ---&gt; 

McCain voted against our troops MANY times in the senate.
John McCain voted AGAINST 20 million dollars for veteran care facilities.
John McCain voted AGAINST $322 million for safety equipment for our troops in Iraq.
John McCain voted AGAINST $1 billion dollars in new equipment for the National Guard.
John McCain voted AGAINST $430 million for veterans outpatient care.

Barack voted FOR all of these troop support initiatives. 

They deserve better than McCain.
We deserve better than McCain.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See no inconsistancy with being pro-birth and calling it pro-life WHILE CUTTING FUNDING FOR CLINICS BECAUSE THEY GO BEYOND &#8220;ABSTINENCE&#8221; WHILE HELPING WOMEN &#8211; - Claim to be pro-life but support a planned war that the US was LIED into accepting, and Deja Vu, don&#8217;t fund the needed services!!! What do I mean? &#8212;&gt; </p>
<p>McCain voted against our troops MANY times in the senate.<br />
John McCain voted AGAINST 20 million dollars for veteran care facilities.<br />
John McCain voted AGAINST $322 million for safety equipment for our troops in Iraq.<br />
John McCain voted AGAINST $1 billion dollars in new equipment for the National Guard.<br />
John McCain voted AGAINST $430 million for veterans outpatient care.</p>
<p>Barack voted FOR all of these troop support initiatives. </p>
<p>They deserve better than McCain.<br />
We deserve better than McCain.<br />
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT</p>
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		<title>By: William Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1530</link>
		<dc:creator>William Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so tired of this line of argument: &quot;I like Sarah Palin because she&#039;s a real person&quot; &quot;I recognize her type from the PTA&quot; &quot;She&#039;s from a small town just like me&quot; 

I&#039;ve heard it over and over this past week.

Is that what people really want in a vice-potentially-President? Someone they know from PTA and can &quot;talk to in the supermarket&quot;?  &quot;Someone who&#039;s just like me&quot;? 

I couldn&#039;t be president. I know that. I don&#039;t want someone just like me to be in charge of our country. That&#039;s terrifying, in fact. 

What&#039;s wrong with wanting a president who is on the smarter side of the population?  When did that become perceived as a negative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so tired of this line of argument: &#8220;I like Sarah Palin because she&#8217;s a real person&#8221; &#8220;I recognize her type from the PTA&#8221; &#8220;She&#8217;s from a small town just like me&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard it over and over this past week.</p>
<p>Is that what people really want in a vice-potentially-President? Someone they know from PTA and can &#8220;talk to in the supermarket&#8221;?  &#8220;Someone who&#8217;s just like me&#8221;? </p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t be president. I know that. I don&#8217;t want someone just like me to be in charge of our country. That&#8217;s terrifying, in fact. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with wanting a president who is on the smarter side of the population?  When did that become perceived as a negative?</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1520</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a Christian and I&#039;m troubled. Alas for different reasons. We have a separation of Church and state for a reason in this country, read some Thomas Jefferson. 

We do not live in a theocracy, I fear however that is the path the religious right want this country to go down.

Religion should be a private matter held in your house or place of worship. Not in the houses of state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a Christian and I&#8217;m troubled. Alas for different reasons. We have a separation of Church and state for a reason in this country, read some Thomas Jefferson. </p>
<p>We do not live in a theocracy, I fear however that is the path the religious right want this country to go down.</p>
<p>Religion should be a private matter held in your house or place of worship. Not in the houses of state.</p>
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		<title>By: Frederic C.</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1513</link>
		<dc:creator>Frederic C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I REPEAT

CAMPAIGN AUTO-DESTRUCT SEQUENCE INITIATED.

PLEASE EVACUATE CAMPAIGN IMMEDIATELY.

WALK DON’T RUN TO THE NEAREST SECESSIONIST LEANING STATE (TEXAS)

CORE PHILOSOPHY MELTDOWN IMMINENT!

CORE PHILOSOPHY MELTDOWN IMMINENT!

CORE PHILOSOPHY MELTDOWN IMMINENT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I REPEAT</p>
<p>CAMPAIGN AUTO-DESTRUCT SEQUENCE INITIATED.</p>
<p>PLEASE EVACUATE CAMPAIGN IMMEDIATELY.</p>
<p>WALK DON’T RUN TO THE NEAREST SECESSIONIST LEANING STATE (TEXAS)</p>
<p>CORE PHILOSOPHY MELTDOWN IMMINENT!</p>
<p>CORE PHILOSOPHY MELTDOWN IMMINENT!</p>
<p>CORE PHILOSOPHY MELTDOWN IMMINENT!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1510</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Christian  and I am troubled. I love John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin: she’s exactly the kind of leader this society needs. But I’m hearing over and over that McCain’s first choice, the choice he had his heart set on, was Joe Lieberman. If this is true, how can I, in my heart of hearts, trust that John McCain will truly listen to her, take her counsel, and not just send her off to attend funerals once the election is over? If in his heart he wanted Joe Lieberman, how can I know what else is really in his heart, and how can I trust him?

Robert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Christian  and I am troubled. I love John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin: she’s exactly the kind of leader this society needs. But I’m hearing over and over that McCain’s first choice, the choice he had his heart set on, was Joe Lieberman. If this is true, how can I, in my heart of hearts, trust that John McCain will truly listen to her, take her counsel, and not just send her off to attend funerals once the election is over? If in his heart he wanted Joe Lieberman, how can I know what else is really in his heart, and how can I trust him?</p>
<p>Robert</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am fervently pro-choice.  I am also the mother of a two-year-old daughter who has Down syndrome.  Pro-choice does not mean, &quot;automatically reject any fetus that is not typical or that is inconvenient.&quot;  It means having the freedom to make a CHOICE.  I am pro-choice and I CHOSE to bring my baby to term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am fervently pro-choice.  I am also the mother of a two-year-old daughter who has Down syndrome.  Pro-choice does not mean, &#8220;automatically reject any fetus that is not typical or that is inconvenient.&#8221;  It means having the freedom to make a CHOICE.  I am pro-choice and I CHOSE to bring my baby to term.</p>
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		<title>By: Lux Interior</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1501</link>
		<dc:creator>Lux Interior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romans chapter 13 my ass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romans chapter 13 my ass!</p>
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		<title>By: Lux Interior</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1500</link>
		<dc:creator>Lux Interior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outrageously one-sided conversation.  Letting the &quot;war is justified if we are killing those evil-doers and protecting (not terrorizing) the innocent&quot; was offensive to my senses.  Nice goin Tom.  What a pro.

These people use the Bible and your show to justify war crimes.  Disgusting, just disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outrageously one-sided conversation.  Letting the &#8220;war is justified if we are killing those evil-doers and protecting (not terrorizing) the innocent&#8221; was offensive to my senses.  Nice goin Tom.  What a pro.</p>
<p>These people use the Bible and your show to justify war crimes.  Disgusting, just disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1491</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I want them to keep their religion out of MY LIFE and not shove it down my throat.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m pro-choice, but I&#039;m still fascinated by the primitive, highly emotional responses that this topic seems to generate.  

Unless you&#039;re a strict libertarian, you presumably have to regard &lt;b&gt;every&lt;/b&gt; law government makes as being &quot;shoved down your throat&quot;.  But you don&#039;t usually see that response to other topics - people don&#039;t usually complain about the federal highway gas tax or the Americans for Disability Act or lack of national health insurance as being &quot;shoved down their throats&quot;.

The fact is that in a democratic system of government the government can pretty much shove anything they want down your throat, subject to Constitutional limits.

And of course, the anti-choice crowd (why let them hijack the term &quot;pro life&quot;?)  thinks that abortion is murder.  It&#039;s intellectually dishonest of the pro-choice side to not acknowledge what that belief implies.   Since the question hinges &lt;b&gt;purely&lt;/b&gt; on definitionalism, neither side can &quot;prove&quot; that the other one is wrong, so logically it will come down to what you can achieve through democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I want them to keep their religion out of MY LIFE and not shove it down my throat.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m pro-choice, but I&#8217;m still fascinated by the primitive, highly emotional responses that this topic seems to generate.  </p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;re a strict libertarian, you presumably have to regard <b>every</b> law government makes as being &#8220;shoved down your throat&#8221;.  But you don&#8217;t usually see that response to other topics &#8211; people don&#8217;t usually complain about the federal highway gas tax or the Americans for Disability Act or lack of national health insurance as being &#8220;shoved down their throats&#8221;.</p>
<p>The fact is that in a democratic system of government the government can pretty much shove anything they want down your throat, subject to Constitutional limits.</p>
<p>And of course, the anti-choice crowd (why let them hijack the term &#8220;pro life&#8221;?)  thinks that abortion is murder.  It&#8217;s intellectually dishonest of the pro-choice side to not acknowledge what that belief implies.   Since the question hinges <b>purely</b> on definitionalism, neither side can &#8220;prove&#8221; that the other one is wrong, so logically it will come down to what you can achieve through democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul thanks for that link. Very informative.

John McCain graduated at the bottom 1/4 of his class,

Philip Butler graduated at the top 1/4 of his class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul thanks for that link. Very informative.</p>
<p>John McCain graduated at the bottom 1/4 of his class,</p>
<p>Philip Butler graduated at the top 1/4 of his class.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul H.</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-religious-right/comment-page-1#comment-1476</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Former POW attended the Naval Academy with John McCain and was held in the same POW facility. Hear what Butler has to say about McCain&#039;s uncharacteristic &quot;conversion&quot; to religion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KjsEs46C70</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former POW attended the Naval Academy with John McCain and was held in the same POW facility. Hear what Butler has to say about McCain&#8217;s uncharacteristic &#8220;conversion&#8221; to religion:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KjsEs46C70" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KjsEs46C70</a></p>
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		<title>By: karen figueroa</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen figueroa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want your guests to know that I am a Democrat and pro-choice......that does NOT mean I would automatically get an abortion.  I have been in that situation, and did not abort.  I want to make that choice myself, not for  some religious zealot to make it for me.  I want them to keep their religion out of MY LIFE and not shove it down my throat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want your guests to know that I am a Democrat and pro-choice&#8230;&#8230;that does NOT mean I would automatically get an abortion.  I have been in that situation, and did not abort.  I want to make that choice myself, not for  some religious zealot to make it for me.  I want them to keep their religion out of MY LIFE and not shove it down my throat.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; just listened to that segment of the show, and was struck at how closely tied the politics of the GOP and religion are tied.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m reporting you to the Department of Redundancy Department.  8-)

&lt;i&gt; &quot;I was so happy to hear the guest bring up the idea of other talking points that the GOP has to present its case on (the environment, poverty, social issues), but I’m absolutely disgusted with the hijacking of the GOP by the religious people of this country.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I thought I explained above why &quot;disgust&quot; is not a very useful reaction.   As I said, it is &lt;b&gt;often&lt;/b&gt; the case in diverse democracies where elections are close-run things, that small, minority interests can gain greater influence by their ability to mobilize a tie-breaking or deal-making group of committed voters.

That the religious right in the US has so much sway over the GOP makes perfect sense from a political science standpoint. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;until the religious right keeps its nose out of politics, &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Why should the religious right keep its nose out of politics?   People have a right to form their political views however they wish, and sertainly many people&#039;s value systems are informed by their religious beliefs.   The Abolitionist movement and the Civil Rights movement were both heavily promoted by religious leaders.   

The challange is not to force religious people out of our democracy, but to ensure that their power does not exceed their numbers. The emotional reaction here, to what is essentially a dry, technical political science problem fascinates me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> just listened to that segment of the show, and was struck at how closely tied the politics of the GOP and religion are tied.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m reporting you to the Department of Redundancy Department.  <img src='http://www.onpointradio.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i> &#8220;I was so happy to hear the guest bring up the idea of other talking points that the GOP has to present its case on (the environment, poverty, social issues), but I’m absolutely disgusted with the hijacking of the GOP by the religious people of this country.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I thought I explained above why &#8220;disgust&#8221; is not a very useful reaction.   As I said, it is <b>often</b> the case in diverse democracies where elections are close-run things, that small, minority interests can gain greater influence by their ability to mobilize a tie-breaking or deal-making group of committed voters.</p>
<p>That the religious right in the US has so much sway over the GOP makes perfect sense from a political science standpoint. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;until the religious right keeps its nose out of politics, &#8220;</i></p>
<p>Why should the religious right keep its nose out of politics?   People have a right to form their political views however they wish, and sertainly many people&#8217;s value systems are informed by their religious beliefs.   The Abolitionist movement and the Civil Rights movement were both heavily promoted by religious leaders.   </p>
<p>The challange is not to force religious people out of our democracy, but to ensure that their power does not exceed their numbers. The emotional reaction here, to what is essentially a dry, technical political science problem fascinates me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyell Franke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyell Franke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former registered Republican, now Independant, I am appalled at how the religious right continues to hyjack the Republican party. Who are these people who have been allowed, no, encouraged to insinuate their imprimatur on a major party platform with their santimonious prosletizing, defending their radically right of center positions with such self satisfied moral righteousness. Who are they to define morality, what is good and just, who is right and who is wrong? Their&#039;s is certainly not a &quot;live and let live&quot; philosophy. Jesus Christ would be appalled at how his message of peace, love, hope, faith and harmony has been distorted and manipulated by many of his purported followers. 
Once again we are being forced to determine the eligibility and capability of our nation&#039;s president based upon the litmus test of Roe v Wade. There are so many more compelling issues and problems to be addressed in this challenging, troubled time, why does this one note song always seem to drown out the chorus of our national political debate?
I voted Democratic last election for many reasons (and not because I liked John Kerry) but partly because of George Bush&#039;s blatant solicitation of the Evangelical, Christian fundamentalist vote by promoting their narrow minded right wing agenda (including, alarmingly and with long term consequences, his court appointments). I have great admiration for John McCain on many levels, I am a fiscal conservative who believes in small government and I support many of his policies. I strongly considered voting for him until his choice of running mate flushed the righteous, often hypocritical, judgemental, visceral, polarizing, right wing nut cases out of the wood work vigorously waving the Republican flag. Why did he need to pander to this loud, fear mongering, resolutely polarized fringe constituency? Once again this election will hinge on one issue politics instead of focusing on a measured, balanced approach to the myriad problems confronting our nation and the world. Whatever happened to common sense? I intend to vote for Barrack Obama, his message is intelligent, nuanced, measured, pluralistic and thoughtful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former registered Republican, now Independant, I am appalled at how the religious right continues to hyjack the Republican party. Who are these people who have been allowed, no, encouraged to insinuate their imprimatur on a major party platform with their santimonious prosletizing, defending their radically right of center positions with such self satisfied moral righteousness. Who are they to define morality, what is good and just, who is right and who is wrong? Their&#8217;s is certainly not a &#8220;live and let live&#8221; philosophy. Jesus Christ would be appalled at how his message of peace, love, hope, faith and harmony has been distorted and manipulated by many of his purported followers.<br />
Once again we are being forced to determine the eligibility and capability of our nation&#8217;s president based upon the litmus test of Roe v Wade. There are so many more compelling issues and problems to be addressed in this challenging, troubled time, why does this one note song always seem to drown out the chorus of our national political debate?<br />
I voted Democratic last election for many reasons (and not because I liked John Kerry) but partly because of George Bush&#8217;s blatant solicitation of the Evangelical, Christian fundamentalist vote by promoting their narrow minded right wing agenda (including, alarmingly and with long term consequences, his court appointments). I have great admiration for John McCain on many levels, I am a fiscal conservative who believes in small government and I support many of his policies. I strongly considered voting for him until his choice of running mate flushed the righteous, often hypocritical, judgemental, visceral, polarizing, right wing nut cases out of the wood work vigorously waving the Republican flag. Why did he need to pander to this loud, fear mongering, resolutely polarized fringe constituency? Once again this election will hinge on one issue politics instead of focusing on a measured, balanced approach to the myriad problems confronting our nation and the world. Whatever happened to common sense? I intend to vote for Barrack Obama, his message is intelligent, nuanced, measured, pluralistic and thoughtful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Platz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Platz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew, your comments suggesting that democrats feel there is &quot;nothing wrong with abortion&quot; indicate a deep lack of understanding about the pro-choice position.  Please read some of the comments above your own.

As far as Mr. Ashbrook&#039;s objectivity, though I feel his questioning was as tough and reasonable as we&#039;ve come to love and expect, I have to agree that Ms. Schlafly being allowed any media attention is something only a liberal could be pleased with.  Mr. Ashbrook should next talk to Michael Moore to return balance to the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew, your comments suggesting that democrats feel there is &#8220;nothing wrong with abortion&#8221; indicate a deep lack of understanding about the pro-choice position.  Please read some of the comments above your own.</p>
<p>As far as Mr. Ashbrook&#8217;s objectivity, though I feel his questioning was as tough and reasonable as we&#8217;ve come to love and expect, I have to agree that Ms. Schlafly being allowed any media attention is something only a liberal could be pleased with.  Mr. Ashbrook should next talk to Michael Moore to return balance to the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Frederic C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frederic C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There may be a silver lining for all of us in McCain&#039;s VP gambit. As McCain &amp;t al. fire up the &quot;grass roots,&quot; with the choice of Sarah Palin, some republicans may become more receptive to McCain&#039;s more moderate views, and others will back themselves into a corner defending his (first) choice.  

I say first parenthetically because I doubt that she is his first choice and think that he will drop her now that she has served her purpose in exciting the  ho hum and anti-McCain Republicans. Sure, he is taking a hit now and will again when he drops her, but his next choice may light a fire and rectify those negatives leaving McCain with a net gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may be a silver lining for all of us in McCain&#8217;s VP gambit. As McCain &amp;t al. fire up the &#8220;grass roots,&#8221; with the choice of Sarah Palin, some republicans may become more receptive to McCain&#8217;s more moderate views, and others will back themselves into a corner defending his (first) choice.  </p>
<p>I say first parenthetically because I doubt that she is his first choice and think that he will drop her now that she has served her purpose in exciting the  ho hum and anti-McCain Republicans. Sure, he is taking a hit now and will again when he drops her, but his next choice may light a fire and rectify those negatives leaving McCain with a net gain.</p>
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