David do you know what a metaphor is?

I read this and even though you have taken it out of context I don’t read this as messianic.

I think your mistaken about Obama being messianic and it seems more as a way to just use language paint him as ‘other’.

It’s clear David, you don’t like Obama, I get it.
The constant harking on this is counter productive.

By the way speaking of being messianic here are some chestnuts from Palin:

“Attending a pastors conference as governor, she told Riley and other Assemblies of God clergy that Alaska had been dedicated to the Lord—”and I know the Lord is not going to take it back.”

“I can do my job there in developing our natural resources and doing things like getting the roads paved and making sure our troopers have their cop cars and their uniforms and their guns, and making sure our public schools are funded,” she said in June to ministry students at her former church. “But really, all of that stuff doesn’t do any good if the people of Alaska’s heart isn’t right with God.”

Source:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-palin-religion_06sep06,0,3371419.story

It’s difficult to think of Americans of the other party as evil but what to make of the mess they are making this election. I don’t know if it is the media, the Washington establishment or what but these Democrats and their media lap-dogs are below contempt.

I think you should vote Republican because……..(insert logical argument here)

The enterprise that was Bush, succeeded extraordinarily well in the process of wealth transfer from hard working Americans who earn less that 300 thousand per year, to those who represent the wealthiest tenth of one percent of Americans and many non-Americans. For example think Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

THE REPUBLICAN BRAND TOOK A HIT.

The incredulous should be incensed and the credulous will vote for McCain/Palin.

BUSH AND CO. TOOK THE LOOT.

YOU’VE BEEN HOODWINKED.

We the people do not have any access.

Any journalist trying to get any near these private events were turned away and chased off of public streets.

At the convention in Minnesota a reporter from ABC was arrested and choked for standing outside of an event with his video crew.

Both parties are not for the majority of the people in this country. They pander to the rich and the corporate fat cats because they have no other choice.

I’m thinking of staying home as the late great George Carlin did. However if I do vote it will be for the Dems as they are the lesser evil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u6lCBnRoHQ

You have complained that you’re not being treated fairly. And yet here you are, yet again getting personal with someone. As soon as your taken to task you cry foul. Typical Republican, you can dish it out but you can’t take it.

I checked out Peter’s web site, so he takes photographs, big deal. I do think it’s risky having the link however as we can now see it is a way to use it for ridicule.

Are you a photographer? Do have a degree in art history or photography?

If not you don’t have the credentials to be an photography/art critic.

We have enough trouble in the Middle East without our politicians starting a new Crusade.
It’s a medieval idea that shows how primitive Sarah Palin is. She is a zealot.

I hope she is told to scale that rhetoric back as it will inflame the 1 billion Muslim’s in the world.

Arguing with conservative trolls does nothing except get us mad. Those arguments are endless and go nowhere. Avoid them.

I find it amazing that both McCain and Palin have framed this as a culture war to avoid having to defend the fact that both of them are aligned with the most unpopular President in history, George W. Bush.

In watching the Republican convention I was struck by how white, how rich, and how angry those people are. Isn’t it ironic that all of us who have suffered under George W. Bush are watching the very folks who elected him, twice, get angry at how we’ve made a mess of things. It’s true that the Democratic congress has sat on its hands the past few years thanks to Reid and Pelosi but that doesn’t undo what was done by Bush and the Republican congress the 4 years prior.

We must never let McCain and Palin cut ties with George. W. Bush who both of them supported and no doubt worked and voted for, twice.

It’s great to see so many Obama supporters out there!

There’s good reason: Obama is civil, smart, well educated, well travelled, civil (did I say that?), astute, well read, a great writer, civil (did I mention that?), good-hearted,
reasonable, patient, even-tempered (civil) and will make a fabulous president.

I lived out of the country for ten years (in Eastern Europe), most of those years under Bush, and watched our country’s standing plummet over there, due to our backwards, greedy, unilateral, aggressive, mean-spirited foreign policy. This election is about more than just US… in fact, our country’s future is about more than just us.

ANYHOW, dear Obama supporters,

I’d advise all those engaged in endless debate here with people who only want to antagonize to take their VERY precious energy and resources and get out to volunteer for the Obama campaign.

Hey people, let’s get to work!

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Two varieties of enthusiasm: the case of Palin vs. Obama

“In his great book Enthusiasm: A Chapter in the History of Religion, the British theologian, satirist, and mystery writer Ronald Knox notes that, “these days,” America “is the last refuge of the enthusiast,” i.e., one who is convinced of his personal possession by the divine….”

http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/

Posted by rascalofearth, on September 4th, 2008 at 12:27 pm EDT
“I still thing Mccain will win as racism will account for just enough to get it done…..then I predict McCain will die within a year.”

Pretty frightening thing.
BTW, Which racism is it you speak of? Some sinister organized white supremisist effert to suppress the minority vote? Or just average IQ white people NOT voting Obama just because he is black (he’s actually of mixed race, but whatever)?
If the latter, I have to ask then, how is that any different from black people voting FOR Obama just because he is black (or, at least, blacker than McCain)?

Everyone talks about how historically high levels of female, black and hispanic voters could affect this election. And it certainly is great to see record numbers of Americans involved in the political process; but no one mentions how McCain/Palin might also drive greater numbers of certain normally dis-enchanted white voters (say..working class men)to the polls in large numbers who just may also vote along gender/racial lines.

It’s about time someone the grassroots Republicans realize that increasing taxes on those who make over $250,000/year or taxing estates worth over $1 million affects a very small percentage of those of us who put in long work weeks and often have second jobs!

What else am I supposed to provide but language that “that made [me], personally, feel [that] Obama was being messianic.”

What a tool you are! Let me point you to an example again:

“This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

Did you expect he was going to announce the fact that he believes himself to be a messiah? No. Of course not. Anyone who is sensitive to language can find it. It’s quite clear to me and many others. If the reader – or Peter – doesn’t agree, that’s just fine.

But I will say this: Peter, you’re not nearly as intelligent as you seem to think you are. You’re an amateur artist pretending to matter. LOL!

Hopefully someone will bring this to the attention of the DNC. I’m sure they’re building up quite a list of stuff to use when the RNC convention is over.

One big advantage Obama has is that he just went through a tough primary, and Biden has been through lots of campaigning, so there aren’t any big revelations about them the public doesn’t already know.

But Palin is fresh meat and she’s going to know how one of her moose feel by the time the press is done with her.

All of Southeast Alaska totals about 80,000 people spread over a dozen or so small communities. As voters you need to ask yourself why would someone “fighting” for the little guy, small towns and against big government, do something that would literally kill the economies of small town Alaska? For the gain of her home town. Is this the type of person you want as VP of the US?

Look beyond the words, the smirk and the rhetoric. You will find a very different person other than the “Jim Henson” version you see on TV.

David didn’t provide even one single example of where Obama gave any indication that he thought he was the Messiah. His examples fell into two categories:

1. Things that made him, personally, feel Obama was being messianic.

2. Comments by others who felt that way.

I don’t know if Mr Essing is a Christian conservative but I’ve run into this sort of “reasoning” WRT my own website, which is linked to below most of my posts.

My website features my paintings and photography and I especially enjoy portraying the female figure. Every so often I get email from religious zealots who opine that my work is “pornographic”. I ask them for a definition and they cannot provide one. I ask them for evidence and it’s much like Mr Essing’s – they know it when they see it, and they can cite others who have the same emotional reaction as they do, and that’s their idea of “evidence”.

First, try reading the rest of my post Peter.

Second, there is not a single post on this or any other thread on this board that is “substantiated,” despite your self-congratulatory claims otherwise about your own posts.

Third, I’m not saying it’s “too complex and nuanced” – I’m pointing to his article because he says very well what I have myself observed about Obama’s speeches.

I provided examples, and that should be enough. It’s as much as anyone else provides on this board. Including thy holiness.

By the way, now that we’re mentioning other threads, you seem incredibly impressed and concerned with your credibility. Maybe rather than worrying about your credibility (on a forum! LOL!), you should get a real life?

That’s your M.O. isn’t it? Because we don’t share your personal, subjective, emotional reaction to something; because we don’t have the same little voices in our heads that you do, it’s up to us to substantiate your claims?

You made a very clear statement saying that Obama seems to think he’s the Messiah, and now you’re doing the same thing you accused the “liberals” of doing in another thread – saying it’s too subtle, complex, and yes, nuanced.

David, I think by now you’ve lost whatever credibility you came in here with.