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	<title>Comments on: The Women of &#8216;08</title>
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		<title>By: kookimebux</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/the-women-of-08/comment-page-2#comment-10248</link>
		<dc:creator>kookimebux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello. And Bye. :)</description>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/the-women-of-08/comment-page-2#comment-2125</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would add my voice to those who have already expressed disappointment with this specific broadcast.  

Typically, when I think of NPR, what comes to mind are shows where intelligent people have taken the time to do their homework, and bring more light than heat to a subject.  A prime example of this would be listening to Dr. Chartock &amp; Mario Cuomo on Capitol Connections - although I didn&#039;t always agree with their perspective, it was still compelling listening.  

Given the above, I was extremely disappointed in the superficially judgemental &amp; dismissive manner which Cindy McCain was treated during this particular &#039;On Point&#039; show.  All the talk about her clothing, but not one word uttered about the fact that she had the goodness in her heart to adopt a child in need.  

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Please don&#039;t allow NPR to given up their unique contribution to public discourse, and instead lower themselves to compete with the likes of The View, Bill Maher, or Keith Olbermann...who seem to prefer to shed more heat than light on any given topic.

Last but not least, anyone who has the opportunity to broadcast on the NPR system should keep in mind the sheer size of the carbon footprint of the hundreds (thousands?) of transmitters carrying their message, (I&#039;m sure that the aggregate power consumption is in the megawatt range!) ...and this fact alone should spur them to really prepare for any &amp; all on-air time.
It&#039;s the right thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add my voice to those who have already expressed disappointment with this specific broadcast.  </p>
<p>Typically, when I think of NPR, what comes to mind are shows where intelligent people have taken the time to do their homework, and bring more light than heat to a subject.  A prime example of this would be listening to Dr. Chartock &amp; Mario Cuomo on Capitol Connections &#8211; although I didn&#8217;t always agree with their perspective, it was still compelling listening.  </p>
<p>Given the above, I was extremely disappointed in the superficially judgemental &amp; dismissive manner which Cindy McCain was treated during this particular &#8216;On Point&#8217; show.  All the talk about her clothing, but not one word uttered about the fact that she had the goodness in her heart to adopt a child in need.  </p>
<p>****</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t allow NPR to given up their unique contribution to public discourse, and instead lower themselves to compete with the likes of The View, Bill Maher, or Keith Olbermann&#8230;who seem to prefer to shed more heat than light on any given topic.</p>
<p>Last but not least, anyone who has the opportunity to broadcast on the NPR system should keep in mind the sheer size of the carbon footprint of the hundreds (thousands?) of transmitters carrying their message, (I&#8217;m sure that the aggregate power consumption is in the megawatt range!) &#8230;and this fact alone should spur them to really prepare for any &amp; all on-air time.<br />
It&#8217;s the right thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/the-women-of-08/comment-page-2#comment-1959</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree given the weight of the word nazis and the historical context of it (them); it seems to me that unless Sarah Palin is found out to be a member of a White Supremest group she is very far from being a nazi on any level. 

I think your philosophy teacher was correct.
One should not use nazi out of context.
I have noticed that am guilty of doing this sometimes myself, I&#039;ll have to check myself.

I would say she is a kind of zealot. She does seem to have traits that are more in keeping with this kind of ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree given the weight of the word nazis and the historical context of it (them); it seems to me that unless Sarah Palin is found out to be a member of a White Supremest group she is very far from being a nazi on any level. </p>
<p>I think your philosophy teacher was correct.<br />
One should not use nazi out of context.<br />
I have noticed that am guilty of doing this sometimes myself, I&#8217;ll have to check myself.</p>
<p>I would say she is a kind of zealot. She does seem to have traits that are more in keeping with this kind of ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say what you want about me, Peter Nelson, but my philosophy teacher was not lame.

His point was that people tend to USE the Nazis when it is completely unnecessary, and he was right.  It&#039;s a lazy form of argumentation.

Obviously there are exceptions.  The point you were trying to make, however, was not one of them.

By the way, my philosophy teacher was never a prig.  Can&#039;t say the same for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you want about me, Peter Nelson, but my philosophy teacher was not lame.</p>
<p>His point was that people tend to USE the Nazis when it is completely unnecessary, and he was right.  It&#8217;s a lazy form of argumentation.</p>
<p>Obviously there are exceptions.  The point you were trying to make, however, was not one of them.</p>
<p>By the way, my philosophy teacher was never a prig.  Can&#8217;t say the same for you.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/the-women-of-08/comment-page-2#comment-1905</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still Peter Christopher J has a point.
We have been vilifying this women and while I have to agree that I loath everything she stands for, this is not going to win the election.

For some reason I keep thinking of Louisiana governor Huey Long. She reminds me of him which is a bit ironic as he was democrat. But she uses the same type of populist rhetoric and is potentially dangerous as he was.

I don&#039;t like how her husband is always in on meetings.
How people who want access to her in the governor&#039;s office sometimes befriend him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still Peter Christopher J has a point.<br />
We have been vilifying this women and while I have to agree that I loath everything she stands for, this is not going to win the election.</p>
<p>For some reason I keep thinking of Louisiana governor Huey Long. She reminds me of him which is a bit ironic as he was democrat. But she uses the same type of populist rhetoric and is potentially dangerous as he was.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like how her husband is always in on meetings.<br />
How people who want access to her in the governor&#8217;s office sometimes befriend him.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My Philosophy 100 teacher taught his students never to compare an opponent in a political debate to a Nazi. Once you compare someone to a Nazi, he said, you’ve lost your argument.&lt;/i&gt;

I didn&#039;t - I quoted Kaiser Wilhelm.  I only mentioned the NAZIs because the average American thinks that the phrase  originated with them, to the extent that the average American even knows enough European history to recognize it.

Anyway, your philosophy teacher sounds lame -  there are plenty of perfectly reasonable comparisons to make to NAZIs -  they provode lots of useful and appropriate object lessons.  Anyway, you or your philosophy teacher are probably thinking of Godwin&#039;s Law, which doesn&#039;t apply here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My Philosophy 100 teacher taught his students never to compare an opponent in a political debate to a Nazi. Once you compare someone to a Nazi, he said, you’ve lost your argument.</i></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t &#8211; I quoted Kaiser Wilhelm.  I only mentioned the NAZIs because the average American thinks that the phrase  originated with them, to the extent that the average American even knows enough European history to recognize it.</p>
<p>Anyway, your philosophy teacher sounds lame &#8211;  there are plenty of perfectly reasonable comparisons to make to NAZIs &#8211;  they provode lots of useful and appropriate object lessons.  Anyway, you or your philosophy teacher are probably thinking of Godwin&#8217;s Law, which doesn&#8217;t apply here.</p>
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		<title>By: Manny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary is a role model, has my respect and admiration. Michell has my respect and support.
I consider Sara Pailn an emabrressment! A woman who preaches what she can not even implement and her kids can not practice. A flip flopper. Someone who would say anythig to promot herself! 
Cindy McCain is so out of touch and too rich!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary is a role model, has my respect and admiration. Michell has my respect and support.<br />
I consider Sara Pailn an emabrressment! A woman who preaches what she can not even implement and her kids can not practice. A flip flopper. Someone who would say anythig to promot herself!<br />
Cindy McCain is so out of touch and too rich!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan GB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan GB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was one of the most discouraging shows I ever heard on NPR; I was quite unprepared to hear whoever the speaker who denigrated Cindy McCain.  The WHOLE POINT of the feminist movement was to give women and, yes, men also, choice in how to best fulfill their lives to the best of their lights. If they don’t choose the cackling person’s politics it does not mean feminism is “dead”. It means people don’t make a choice approved by this cackling person, who was quite disrespectful.
 
Hillary Clinton in office does not make sexism go away. Sarah Palin would not promote policies that would favorable to anyone earning under 5 million dollars.
 
Whoever gets into office- there are real issues, core to both men and women including the economy, global warming, the devastation of jobs, poor heath care access, support of women in the work place and day care is what we need to focus on. How will the next president help our country and our world? How will they help women?  I did not hear this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was one of the most discouraging shows I ever heard on NPR; I was quite unprepared to hear whoever the speaker who denigrated Cindy McCain.  The WHOLE POINT of the feminist movement was to give women and, yes, men also, choice in how to best fulfill their lives to the best of their lights. If they don’t choose the cackling person’s politics it does not mean feminism is “dead”. It means people don’t make a choice approved by this cackling person, who was quite disrespectful.</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton in office does not make sexism go away. Sarah Palin would not promote policies that would favorable to anyone earning under 5 million dollars.</p>
<p>Whoever gets into office- there are real issues, core to both men and women including the economy, global warming, the devastation of jobs, poor heath care access, support of women in the work place and day care is what we need to focus on. How will the next president help our country and our world? How will they help women?  I did not hear this</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Nelson --

My Philosophy 100 teacher taught his students never to compare an opponent in a political debate to a Nazi.  Once you compare someone to a Nazi, he said, you&#039;ve lost your argument.

People who question Palin&#039;s personal situation need to be very respectful, very civil, and very cautious.  

However, I would argue that it is legitimate to ask questions about her personal life.  We&#039;re talking about a person who may have access to nuclear missile launch codes in a few months. 

Sarah Palin *gave birth* a few months ago.  This is a big deal.  It certainly does not disqualify her from anything, but it is not blood and soil fascism to be curious about how this might affect her on the job.

If Michelle Obama had given birth recently, and if the Obama&#039;s had a daughter who was pregnant before the age of 18, I am going to go out on a limb here and guess people would be talking about it.

Personally, I&#039;d like to know what kind of person shoots wolves from an airplane.  That sort of revolting, disrespectful behavior disqualifies her, in my opinion, let alone her family.  

I agree with other critics of this show. It seemed a little cushy and gushy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Nelson &#8211;</p>
<p>My Philosophy 100 teacher taught his students never to compare an opponent in a political debate to a Nazi.  Once you compare someone to a Nazi, he said, you&#8217;ve lost your argument.</p>
<p>People who question Palin&#8217;s personal situation need to be very respectful, very civil, and very cautious.  </p>
<p>However, I would argue that it is legitimate to ask questions about her personal life.  We&#8217;re talking about a person who may have access to nuclear missile launch codes in a few months. </p>
<p>Sarah Palin *gave birth* a few months ago.  This is a big deal.  It certainly does not disqualify her from anything, but it is not blood and soil fascism to be curious about how this might affect her on the job.</p>
<p>If Michelle Obama had given birth recently, and if the Obama&#8217;s had a daughter who was pregnant before the age of 18, I am going to go out on a limb here and guess people would be talking about it.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d like to know what kind of person shoots wolves from an airplane.  That sort of revolting, disrespectful behavior disqualifies her, in my opinion, let alone her family.  </p>
<p>I agree with other critics of this show. It seemed a little cushy and gushy.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy McCain? Why do you think she&#039;s being kept in the background so much. She wore $300,000 outfits while McCain was talking about how make the working stiffs life better.

She&#039;s no Eleanor Roosevelt that&#039;s for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy McCain? Why do you think she&#8217;s being kept in the background so much. She wore $300,000 outfits while McCain was talking about how make the working stiffs life better.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s no Eleanor Roosevelt that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: John Byrnes</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/the-women-of-08/comment-page-2#comment-1876</link>
		<dc:creator>John Byrnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to the program and thought it was very biased and impolite. There
was not one person representing the non liberal view. Wouldn&#039;t it be fair and more interesting to have one different opinion and to some discourse. 

 I  thought that it was very impolite and cowardly for the guests to snicker and sneer at the Republican candidate and to laugh at Cindy McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to the program and thought it was very biased and impolite. There<br />
was not one person representing the non liberal view. Wouldn&#8217;t it be fair and more interesting to have one different opinion and to some discourse. </p>
<p> I  thought that it was very impolite and cowardly for the guests to snicker and sneer at the Republican candidate and to laugh at Cindy McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/the-women-of-08/comment-page-2#comment-1874</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But Ms. Palin wasn’t the first this season to take on the “good ol’ boys.” Before Sarah, there was Hillary, storming the citadel in colorful pantsuits&quot;

So deeply ingrained into our collective cultural sub-conscious is the conformity demanded by gender-role stereotypes, that even in this assumably impartial journalistic treatment of issues, an individual who happens to be female who aspires to take an influential place among other influential individuals is painted as being engaged in subversive war of the sexes. And the combatant&#039;s individual and unique attributes are colored as secondary to their fashion (uniform)choices.

&quot;I thought we were past that.&quot;
Posted by Peter Nelson, on September 8th, 2008 at 8:26 am EDT

Come on Peter, I think you&#039;re smarter than that. You may have hoped we were past it or that we could get past it, but I think you probably know we are not. And maybe we will never be past allowing superficial and relatively minor differences between us determine to a lage extent the way we perceive others. Prejudice may just be a result of the frailty of human nature. If we try to pretend it can somehow be overcome through intellectual enlightenment, then we may just be living in real-world denial. I believe prejudice is when we allow our initial preceptions of others to be colored by those superficial differences and their stereotypes. The &#039;isms&#039; sexism, racism, ageism and all the rest are the result of allowing those imperfect impressions to determine our actions. Prejudice in action, if you will. We can&#039;t hope to come close to overcoming the latter if we won&#039;t admit to the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But Ms. Palin wasn’t the first this season to take on the “good ol’ boys.” Before Sarah, there was Hillary, storming the citadel in colorful pantsuits&#8221;</p>
<p>So deeply ingrained into our collective cultural sub-conscious is the conformity demanded by gender-role stereotypes, that even in this assumably impartial journalistic treatment of issues, an individual who happens to be female who aspires to take an influential place among other influential individuals is painted as being engaged in subversive war of the sexes. And the combatant&#8217;s individual and unique attributes are colored as secondary to their fashion (uniform)choices.</p>
<p>&#8220;I thought we were past that.&#8221;<br />
Posted by Peter Nelson, on September 8th, 2008 at 8:26 am EDT</p>
<p>Come on Peter, I think you&#8217;re smarter than that. You may have hoped we were past it or that we could get past it, but I think you probably know we are not. And maybe we will never be past allowing superficial and relatively minor differences between us determine to a lage extent the way we perceive others. Prejudice may just be a result of the frailty of human nature. If we try to pretend it can somehow be overcome through intellectual enlightenment, then we may just be living in real-world denial. I believe prejudice is when we allow our initial preceptions of others to be colored by those superficial differences and their stereotypes. The &#8216;isms&#8217; sexism, racism, ageism and all the rest are the result of allowing those imperfect impressions to determine our actions. Prejudice in action, if you will. We can&#8217;t hope to come close to overcoming the latter if we won&#8217;t admit to the former.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this conversation petty and reeking of a double standard.  When talking about Sarah&#039;s children, you are overlooking that two are leaving the family home for military service and marriage.

This is truly the Red State Feminists against the Blue State Feminists.  I wish your guests could have been more tolerant of of the Reds.  They have just as much right to their views as the Blues!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this conversation petty and reeking of a double standard.  When talking about Sarah&#8217;s children, you are overlooking that two are leaving the family home for military service and marriage.</p>
<p>This is truly the Red State Feminists against the Blue State Feminists.  I wish your guests could have been more tolerant of of the Reds.  They have just as much right to their views as the Blues!</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/the-women-of-08/comment-page-2#comment-1861</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is some more interesting facts on Alaskonomics:
Like I said she is a hypocrite and a phony.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1839724,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is some more interesting facts on Alaskonomics:<br />
Like I said she is a hypocrite and a phony.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1839724,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1839724,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However if the polls keep going the way it is, Obama is going to lose. Which is amazing given the economic state of the nation and all the other issues.

We do get what we deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However if the polls keep going the way it is, Obama is going to lose. Which is amazing given the economic state of the nation and all the other issues.</p>
<p>We do get what we deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Poppa150</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poppa150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have gotten myself on a Forum where people write the word &quot;classist&quot; with no shame or sense of irony whatever.

Jeez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have gotten myself on a Forum where people write the word &#8220;classist&#8221; with no shame or sense of irony whatever.</p>
<p>Jeez.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin is turning out to be a phony when it comes to talking about cutting government spending and waste.
Read today&#039;s Washington Post on what she charged the tax payers of Alaska. One fun item was her daughter Bristol&#039;s $707 a day hotel for trip she took to New York City with her mother. 

I think this points right back to McCain and his teams lack of vetting here. 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090803088.html?hpid=topnews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin is turning out to be a phony when it comes to talking about cutting government spending and waste.<br />
Read today&#8217;s Washington Post on what she charged the tax payers of Alaska. One fun item was her daughter Bristol&#8217;s $707 a day hotel for trip she took to New York City with her mother. </p>
<p>I think this points right back to McCain and his teams lack of vetting here. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090803088.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090803088.html?hpid=topnews</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I though I made it clear that my objection to Governor Palin had nothing to do with work-family balance, but instead was because i regard her to be a religious extremist.

I agree that the fact that she has young children is an invalid reason to reject her.   You never hear people complaining about male candidates having young children at home.  I&#039;m sure Mr Palin is perfectly capable of managing things on the home front.   I frankly think that the assumptions made on &lt;b&gt;both&lt;/b&gt; ends of the political spectrum that, somehow, childcare is the domain of women is bogus.   It reminds me of Kaiser Wilhelm&#039;s doctrine (later echoed by the NAZIs) of &quot;Kinder, Küche, Kirche&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I though I made it clear that my objection to Governor Palin had nothing to do with work-family balance, but instead was because i regard her to be a religious extremist.</p>
<p>I agree that the fact that she has young children is an invalid reason to reject her.   You never hear people complaining about male candidates having young children at home.  I&#8217;m sure Mr Palin is perfectly capable of managing things on the home front.   I frankly think that the assumptions made on <b>both</b> ends of the political spectrum that, somehow, childcare is the domain of women is bogus.   It reminds me of Kaiser Wilhelm&#8217;s doctrine (later echoed by the NAZIs) of &#8220;Kinder, Küche, Kirche&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Voter and citizen. I think Palin is a religious extremist who is on record as saying that the Iraq war is a mission from God, and so is the oil pipeline and that she thinks the Governor’s office should be used to promote God’s will. Someone like that belongs at home, not in government.

Her attitudes show a failure to grasp why we have separation of church and state in the US. Palin would probably be happier in a place like Iran where her well-oiled style of theocracy seems to be more appropriate.&quot;-PN 

I shouldn&#039;t respond to such trolling but I will. There are definitely legitimate reasons why one could object to Mrs. Palin as a political candidate and even though I&#039;m a Republican I am not sure I would vote for her for president myself. I however do not think its legitimate to not vote for Palin because you personally think she can&#039;t handle the rigors of a home life and political campaign or to assess how she should live her life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Voter and citizen. I think Palin is a religious extremist who is on record as saying that the Iraq war is a mission from God, and so is the oil pipeline and that she thinks the Governor’s office should be used to promote God’s will. Someone like that belongs at home, not in government.</p>
<p>Her attitudes show a failure to grasp why we have separation of church and state in the US. Palin would probably be happier in a place like Iran where her well-oiled style of theocracy seems to be more appropriate.&#8221;-PN </p>
<p>I shouldn&#8217;t respond to such trolling but I will. There are definitely legitimate reasons why one could object to Mrs. Palin as a political candidate and even though I&#8217;m a Republican I am not sure I would vote for her for president myself. I however do not think its legitimate to not vote for Palin because you personally think she can&#8217;t handle the rigors of a home life and political campaign or to assess how she should live her life.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/09/the-women-of-08/comment-page-2#comment-1836</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This segment was truly disappointing. As a daily listener, I can honestly say that it was the most vacuous discussion I have heard. I came away thinking: what a shame - a missed opportunity to present some tough but balanced information (indeed facts instead of manufactured baloney) about a very important issue.&quot; It was an opportunity for individuals (particularly women) to comment with insight and intelligence about what is at stake for the country if the Republicans win the election this time around. Americans are being sold a bill of goods with Sarah Palin, and the sad point is that far too many people are buying it. The enthusiasm for Sarach Palin demonstrates exactly how strong the cult pf personality has become in the minds of the voting public. In many cases whom one votes for could be decided easily and without much mental effort simply by reading an article in People magazine or listening to a few minutes of a Fox News (sic) program shortly before entering the voting booth. Rovians understand this and are exploiting it to the max. Unfortunately this panel did nothing to help listeners who might have been duped by the Madison Avenue packaging of the Republican vp pick to see what&#039;s at stake if McCain-Palin are voted into office. I&#039;m terrified to think that the Republicans might actually win in November and I&#039;m doing my part to see that it doesn&#039;t happen. In general, the media establishment is being sucked in by Palin&#039;s handlers and they&#039;re giving her the proverbial pass. Thoughtful voters need solid, forceful information about this candidate and the potential threat that her views pose to our country. I hope the editors/programmers of On Point will try again, this time with commentators who have something of substance to add to the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This segment was truly disappointing. As a daily listener, I can honestly say that it was the most vacuous discussion I have heard. I came away thinking: what a shame &#8211; a missed opportunity to present some tough but balanced information (indeed facts instead of manufactured baloney) about a very important issue.&#8221; It was an opportunity for individuals (particularly women) to comment with insight and intelligence about what is at stake for the country if the Republicans win the election this time around. Americans are being sold a bill of goods with Sarah Palin, and the sad point is that far too many people are buying it. The enthusiasm for Sarach Palin demonstrates exactly how strong the cult pf personality has become in the minds of the voting public. In many cases whom one votes for could be decided easily and without much mental effort simply by reading an article in People magazine or listening to a few minutes of a Fox News (sic) program shortly before entering the voting booth. Rovians understand this and are exploiting it to the max. Unfortunately this panel did nothing to help listeners who might have been duped by the Madison Avenue packaging of the Republican vp pick to see what&#8217;s at stake if McCain-Palin are voted into office. I&#8217;m terrified to think that the Republicans might actually win in November and I&#8217;m doing my part to see that it doesn&#8217;t happen. In general, the media establishment is being sucked in by Palin&#8217;s handlers and they&#8217;re giving her the proverbial pass. Thoughtful voters need solid, forceful information about this candidate and the potential threat that her views pose to our country. I hope the editors/programmers of On Point will try again, this time with commentators who have something of substance to add to the discussion.</p>
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