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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/10/girls-girls-girls/comment-page-1#comment-5248</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry I&#039;m tardy contributing my comments.

  I&#039;d first like to thank the host of the show, Tom Ashbrook, for a job well done, showing concern for the way society is treating our young girls,and boys too.

  I think the level of discourse in this comments section is terrific and I agree with a lot of whats been written here.  I want to concur with robin, on Oct. 21st, 08 @ 11:02am EDT, when she agrees with patricia fabbri, on Oct. 20th, 08 @ 11:34am EDT, concerning Jeanne Brooks-Gunn.  This scholar is a non-starter.  Cynical perhaps and maybe she feels this type of literature is for a lower social class albeit not a lower financial class, compared to the Ivy-league class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry I&#8217;m tardy contributing my comments.</p>
<p>  I&#8217;d first like to thank the host of the show, Tom Ashbrook, for a job well done, showing concern for the way society is treating our young girls,and boys too.</p>
<p>  I think the level of discourse in this comments section is terrific and I agree with a lot of whats been written here.  I want to concur with robin, on Oct. 21st, 08 @ 11:02am EDT, when she agrees with patricia fabbri, on Oct. 20th, 08 @ 11:34am EDT, concerning Jeanne Brooks-Gunn.  This scholar is a non-starter.  Cynical perhaps and maybe she feels this type of literature is for a lower social class albeit not a lower financial class, compared to the Ivy-league class.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Hubbard</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/10/girls-girls-girls/comment-page-1#comment-4928</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy Hubbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to yesterday&#039;s show and felt that I needed to mull over my response before submitting my comments.

I work with teens, primarily high school juniors and seniors in a residential summer art programs. First, let me say that I truly believe that young people give me hope for our future...these are great people.
Unfortunately, I have heard them described on this radio program by the parents and experts as some kind of amorphous blob of &quot;sponges&quot; eager to absorb all of society&#039;s negativity. Negativity that we adults, by the way, purposefully and methodically market to this particular age bracket. How sad for our young people that we adults cannot see them for the smart, discerning, powerful individuals with good personalities, clear opinions and interesting perspectives on the world. The kids I meet know junk when they see it.

Let&#039;s talk about the classics, which I happen to love to read. That love was instilled in me by my mother; I have read classic literature all my life and read it to my daughter growing up. Let us remember that some classic literature was written in times of slavery, when women did not vote, when civil war was waging...so before we get all sentimental about the good ole days of classic literature... read David Copperfield for example or even, dare I say it, Little Women.

Young women today can discern the social context of classic literature as well as contemporary. If they have been taught and prepared to do so. These are smart and savvy kids who we have prepared to enter the world.

Our responsibility as writers and artists, it is to create contemporary work that becomes classic not junk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to yesterday&#8217;s show and felt that I needed to mull over my response before submitting my comments.</p>
<p>I work with teens, primarily high school juniors and seniors in a residential summer art programs. First, let me say that I truly believe that young people give me hope for our future&#8230;these are great people.<br />
Unfortunately, I have heard them described on this radio program by the parents and experts as some kind of amorphous blob of &#8220;sponges&#8221; eager to absorb all of society&#8217;s negativity. Negativity that we adults, by the way, purposefully and methodically market to this particular age bracket. How sad for our young people that we adults cannot see them for the smart, discerning, powerful individuals with good personalities, clear opinions and interesting perspectives on the world. The kids I meet know junk when they see it.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s talk about the classics, which I happen to love to read. That love was instilled in me by my mother; I have read classic literature all my life and read it to my daughter growing up. Let us remember that some classic literature was written in times of slavery, when women did not vote, when civil war was waging&#8230;so before we get all sentimental about the good ole days of classic literature&#8230; read David Copperfield for example or even, dare I say it, Little Women.</p>
<p>Young women today can discern the social context of classic literature as well as contemporary. If they have been taught and prepared to do so. These are smart and savvy kids who we have prepared to enter the world.</p>
<p>Our responsibility as writers and artists, it is to create contemporary work that becomes classic not junk.</p>
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		<title>By: Christa</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/10/girls-girls-girls/comment-page-1#comment-4890</link>
		<dc:creator>Christa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know firsthand that media messages can profoundly influence young girls&#039; (and boys&#039;) opinions about sex and their own body image.  Even though I am thirty-three now, I can clearly remember thinking as young as age nine or ten that the absolute best thing a girl could be was &quot;sexy.&quot; The messages I got were loud and clear: &quot;Being pretty is infinitely more important than being smart, and having boys &#039;want&#039; you is more important than having them respect you.&quot;  

My parents were great, but sex was a topic that was not discussed until we were older, so by then I already had formed my own opinions, having &quot;learned&quot; from my friends and the media.  I ended up becoming involved with sex at an alarmingly young age and then having years of guilty feelings about myself afterward. It was not until many years later that I could see sex as a healthy, positive thing. Nowadays I value my intelligence a lot more than my image, and it means much more to me to be respected than to be merely attractive.  

The thing that scares me is that now I have a daughter of my own, and the media images have gotten even raunchier and more outlandish since I was coming of age. I plan to be very open with my kids about sex and body image, and teach them to be aware of the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways that the media influences people every day of our lives.  It&#039;s scary to think how totally unaware I was back then! I also plan to be more restrained about TV time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know firsthand that media messages can profoundly influence young girls&#8217; (and boys&#8217;) opinions about sex and their own body image.  Even though I am thirty-three now, I can clearly remember thinking as young as age nine or ten that the absolute best thing a girl could be was &#8220;sexy.&#8221; The messages I got were loud and clear: &#8220;Being pretty is infinitely more important than being smart, and having boys &#8216;want&#8217; you is more important than having them respect you.&#8221;  </p>
<p>My parents were great, but sex was a topic that was not discussed until we were older, so by then I already had formed my own opinions, having &#8220;learned&#8221; from my friends and the media.  I ended up becoming involved with sex at an alarmingly young age and then having years of guilty feelings about myself afterward. It was not until many years later that I could see sex as a healthy, positive thing. Nowadays I value my intelligence a lot more than my image, and it means much more to me to be respected than to be merely attractive.  </p>
<p>The thing that scares me is that now I have a daughter of my own, and the media images have gotten even raunchier and more outlandish since I was coming of age. I plan to be very open with my kids about sex and body image, and teach them to be aware of the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways that the media influences people every day of our lives.  It&#8217;s scary to think how totally unaware I was back then! I also plan to be more restrained about TV time.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sound and the Fury &#171; The ConverStation</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Sound and the Fury &#171; The ConverStation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to my attention The Longstockings blogger’s incendiary, uppercase letter rage sparked by a recent On Point program on children’s literature. I caught a discussion on NPR featuring Cecily von Zeigesar (Gossip [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to my attention The Longstockings blogger’s incendiary, uppercase letter rage sparked by a recent On Point program on children’s literature. I caught a discussion on NPR featuring Cecily von Zeigesar (Gossip [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie wrote: &quot;I was surprised to find information in the Beacon Street Girls series regarding drinking alchohol. My daughter received these books as a gift, I read them, and I returned them.&quot;

The Beacon Street Girls book in question (&quot;Freaked Out&quot;) wasn&#039;t promoting alcohol in any way.  A minor character got drunk, started a fight with someone else, and threw up all over the place.  The other characters who witnessed this immediately decided that drinking was not cool.  The back of the book extras even included facts about the dangers of alcohol abuse and underage drinking.

Just curious, what do you let your kids read?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie wrote: &#8220;I was surprised to find information in the Beacon Street Girls series regarding drinking alchohol. My daughter received these books as a gift, I read them, and I returned them.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Beacon Street Girls book in question (&#8220;Freaked Out&#8221;) wasn&#8217;t promoting alcohol in any way.  A minor character got drunk, started a fight with someone else, and threw up all over the place.  The other characters who witnessed this immediately decided that drinking was not cool.  The back of the book extras even included facts about the dangers of alcohol abuse and underage drinking.</p>
<p>Just curious, what do you let your kids read?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina McCormack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina McCormack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For example, The sisterhood of the Traveling Pants series and other books labled age appropriate by most for a 6th graders are in fact NOT APROPRIATE.&quot;

This is a good example of the naivete of parents in choosing books for their children: the age levels labeled on books or noted in many reviews reflect reading level, not content.

On example is the &quot;Nancy Drew Case Files&quot; and corresponding &quot;Hardy Boys&quot; series that was started in the late 1980&#039;s to attract an older readership.  Parents, not realizing that the &quot;mysteries&quot; in this series involved subjects like drug trafficking, prostitution, international organized crime, and such &quot;Miami Vice&quot; type storylines, were purchasing them for their 7-10 year old &quot;Nancy Drew&quot; readers. (Of course, this is also a great time to point out that the original Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys mysteries have been heavily dumbed down over the years.) When I pointed out that those titles reflected more adult themes, most parents didn&#039;t care. But hey, there are 8 year olds reading Stephen King, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For example, The sisterhood of the Traveling Pants series and other books labled age appropriate by most for a 6th graders are in fact NOT APROPRIATE.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a good example of the naivete of parents in choosing books for their children: the age levels labeled on books or noted in many reviews reflect reading level, not content.</p>
<p>On example is the &#8220;Nancy Drew Case Files&#8221; and corresponding &#8220;Hardy Boys&#8221; series that was started in the late 1980&#8217;s to attract an older readership.  Parents, not realizing that the &#8220;mysteries&#8221; in this series involved subjects like drug trafficking, prostitution, international organized crime, and such &#8220;Miami Vice&#8221; type storylines, were purchasing them for their 7-10 year old &#8220;Nancy Drew&#8221; readers. (Of course, this is also a great time to point out that the original Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys mysteries have been heavily dumbed down over the years.) When I pointed out that those titles reflected more adult themes, most parents didn&#8217;t care. But hey, there are 8 year olds reading Stephen King, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Does it matter? We’ll ask the creator of “Gossip Girl” and a publisher pushing in a different direction. This hour, On Point: Targeting the hearts and minds of America’s teenage girls.&lt;/i&gt;

YES, it does matter! On the heels of the Candace Bushnell interview, the “Girls Girls Girls” show was tremendously effective in underscoring the very real battle for the hearts and minds of young girls (and boys).

I agree with an earlier post by patricia that the child development expert, Jeanne Brooks-Gunn, was neither well vetted nor capable of grasping the core of the issue. In fairness, perhaps she is capable, but I was disappointed that her contributions to the show were so superficial. By comparison, I find many of the comments on this thread much more ‘on point’! 

And yes, there definitely IS a connection between the content of Gossip Girl and the economic crisis--it’s the creation and celebration of an artificial, unattainable reality. The glamorization of materialism, drugs, and casual sex may not be new, but it has become so pervasive and so deep that it now surrounds our 9 year olds in what they see, read, and hear every day. I challenge anyone to explain how this distorted view of life does not shape our kids and ultimately, our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Does it matter? We’ll ask the creator of “Gossip Girl” and a publisher pushing in a different direction. This hour, On Point: Targeting the hearts and minds of America’s teenage girls.</i></p>
<p>YES, it does matter! On the heels of the Candace Bushnell interview, the “Girls Girls Girls” show was tremendously effective in underscoring the very real battle for the hearts and minds of young girls (and boys).</p>
<p>I agree with an earlier post by patricia that the child development expert, Jeanne Brooks-Gunn, was neither well vetted nor capable of grasping the core of the issue. In fairness, perhaps she is capable, but I was disappointed that her contributions to the show were so superficial. By comparison, I find many of the comments on this thread much more ‘on point’! </p>
<p>And yes, there definitely IS a connection between the content of Gossip Girl and the economic crisis&#8211;it’s the creation and celebration of an artificial, unattainable reality. The glamorization of materialism, drugs, and casual sex may not be new, but it has become so pervasive and so deep that it now surrounds our 9 year olds in what they see, read, and hear every day. I challenge anyone to explain how this distorted view of life does not shape our kids and ultimately, our society.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And one more comment, on the so-called classics: some kids come to them, but we need to give it a bit of a rest. Publishing for children is a huge industry and many remarkable, beautiful, challenging, and inspiring books are written and published every year, and yes, kids will read most of them if the books are recommended by a teacher or friend. I love a lot of the &quot;classics,&quot; but we will never inspire a new generation of writers if we do not also include and celebrate contemporary writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And one more comment, on the so-called classics: some kids come to them, but we need to give it a bit of a rest. Publishing for children is a huge industry and many remarkable, beautiful, challenging, and inspiring books are written and published every year, and yes, kids will read most of them if the books are recommended by a teacher or friend. I love a lot of the &#8220;classics,&#8221; but we will never inspire a new generation of writers if we do not also include and celebrate contemporary writers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/10/girls-girls-girls/comment-page-1#comment-4713</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a school librarian in a K-8 urban school. I know that my students read a lot of fluffy, salacious literature in between more &quot;meaty&quot; books. So do grown-ups! Studies show that adult males read very little fiction (but do read lots of magazines, newspapers, and some nonfiction) Of grown-up women who read fiction, many tend toward the Candace Bushnells or Jennifer Weiners of the world for most of their reading, occasionally turning to Toni Morrison or someone more &quot;literary.&quot;

Anyway, back to the kids. As a librarian in a school, I&#039;ve elected not to buy a lot of it, mainly because of curriculum and - especially - budget constraints. I know the public library carries a lot of the popular series and I direct kids there.

I&#039;ll be honest: I&#039;m not AS worried about the sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Kids have been seeking material on those topics for centuries. But I do have a content complaint that was not addressed on the show. There is an enormous amount of brand-dropping - indeed, downright PRODUCT PLACEMENT - in the Clique, Gossip Girls, and other novels. Professionals in children&#039;s literature point out that some of these books are distributed via the same channels as popular clothes and styles mentioned in the books (i.e. Delia&#039;s catalog/&quot;magazine&quot;). Beyond that possible and insidious marketing scheme, I couldn&#039;t even get through a Gossip Girl book because of all the brand name references: Manolo, Stella McCartney, the list goes on. I love fashion myself, but do we need the name-dropping, really? in a tween/teen book? We expect it in a magazine, but kids are not en guarde when reading a book. Experience tells me that kids are noticing these names, all of which are far beyond their parents&#039; financial reach, and it makes them more brand-conscious and catty at school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a school librarian in a K-8 urban school. I know that my students read a lot of fluffy, salacious literature in between more &#8220;meaty&#8221; books. So do grown-ups! Studies show that adult males read very little fiction (but do read lots of magazines, newspapers, and some nonfiction) Of grown-up women who read fiction, many tend toward the Candace Bushnells or Jennifer Weiners of the world for most of their reading, occasionally turning to Toni Morrison or someone more &#8220;literary.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the kids. As a librarian in a school, I&#8217;ve elected not to buy a lot of it, mainly because of curriculum and &#8211; especially &#8211; budget constraints. I know the public library carries a lot of the popular series and I direct kids there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be honest: I&#8217;m not AS worried about the sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Kids have been seeking material on those topics for centuries. But I do have a content complaint that was not addressed on the show. There is an enormous amount of brand-dropping &#8211; indeed, downright PRODUCT PLACEMENT &#8211; in the Clique, Gossip Girls, and other novels. Professionals in children&#8217;s literature point out that some of these books are distributed via the same channels as popular clothes and styles mentioned in the books (i.e. Delia&#8217;s catalog/&#8221;magazine&#8221;). Beyond that possible and insidious marketing scheme, I couldn&#8217;t even get through a Gossip Girl book because of all the brand name references: Manolo, Stella McCartney, the list goes on. I love fashion myself, but do we need the name-dropping, really? in a tween/teen book? We expect it in a magazine, but kids are not en guarde when reading a book. Experience tells me that kids are noticing these names, all of which are far beyond their parents&#8217; financial reach, and it makes them more brand-conscious and catty at school.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/10/girls-girls-girls/comment-page-1#comment-4710</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What if they read straight up pornography, would that matter?&quot;

&quot;A show called GOSSIP GIRLS&quot;

Tom, will you be my best friend forever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What if they read straight up pornography, would that matter?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A show called GOSSIP GIRLS&#8221;</p>
<p>Tom, will you be my best friend forever?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi Yenney</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/10/girls-girls-girls/comment-page-1#comment-4707</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi Yenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a teenager in the 50&#039;s &amp; 60&#039;s I read Lolita, Lady Chaterly&#039;s Lover, The Carpetbaggers, Valley of the Dolls, etc. Super sexy stuff for the day and we didn&#039;t turn into drug addled sex pots. Give your girls some credit for intelligence and be more like the mom who called in that she watches with her daughter and talks to her about this stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a teenager in the 50&#8217;s &amp; 60&#8217;s I read Lolita, Lady Chaterly&#8217;s Lover, The Carpetbaggers, Valley of the Dolls, etc. Super sexy stuff for the day and we didn&#8217;t turn into drug addled sex pots. Give your girls some credit for intelligence and be more like the mom who called in that she watches with her daughter and talks to her about this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: US</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/10/girls-girls-girls/comment-page-1#comment-4706</link>
		<dc:creator>US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am definitely with Suzy and Jaime on this. Recently I picked up a Gossip Girl book and was appalled at the language, theme and storyline! It is also very substandard in language department too- so there is NO NEED for our girls to read this &quot;garbage&quot; nor watch the vulgar show!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am definitely with Suzy and Jaime on this. Recently I picked up a Gossip Girl book and was appalled at the language, theme and storyline! It is also very substandard in language department too- so there is NO NEED for our girls to read this &#8220;garbage&#8221; nor watch the vulgar show!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Writers and editors have a responsibility to keep this in mind when they put something out in the world.&lt;/i&gt;

This is the &lt;b&gt;second&lt;/b&gt; time in the discussion when someone placed the responsibility for the conent children are exposed to on the media itself (writers and editors).   

But as I and another poster have pointed out, the fundamental responsibility is the parent&#039;s.   Do you personally know the writers and editors?  Do they know your child?  NO!   So why do you want to delegate responsility to them?    &lt;b&gt;You&lt;/b&gt; are the one responsible for what your child reads and watches on TV, assuming you let them watch TV at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Writers and editors have a responsibility to keep this in mind when they put something out in the world.</i></p>
<p>This is the <b>second</b> time in the discussion when someone placed the responsibility for the conent children are exposed to on the media itself (writers and editors).   </p>
<p>But as I and another poster have pointed out, the fundamental responsibility is the parent&#8217;s.   Do you personally know the writers and editors?  Do they know your child?  NO!   So why do you want to delegate responsility to them?    <b>You</b> are the one responsible for what your child reads and watches on TV, assuming you let them watch TV at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an elementary school teacher, I am always reading the latest releases to bring fresh new literature to my students as well as reading aloud the classics.  What is very important are the discussions that take place before, during, and after the reading, and framing questions that push a student to reflect thoughtfully on a situation that a character was in or a choice that a character made.  I am always mindful of introducing my students, girls and boys, to an author they may like that has published several books to keep them coming back for more.  Reading different genres is also important, and I find that girls often enjoy biographies of interesting women. I don&#039;t agree that getting children to read literature that is not age-appropriate is okay as long as they&#039;re reading; there, I think, parents need to put some time and effort into helping their children select age-appropriate reading material.  Save Gossip Girl for older teens (as it was intended) that want to read some &quot;fluff&quot; over the summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an elementary school teacher, I am always reading the latest releases to bring fresh new literature to my students as well as reading aloud the classics.  What is very important are the discussions that take place before, during, and after the reading, and framing questions that push a student to reflect thoughtfully on a situation that a character was in or a choice that a character made.  I am always mindful of introducing my students, girls and boys, to an author they may like that has published several books to keep them coming back for more.  Reading different genres is also important, and I find that girls often enjoy biographies of interesting women. I don&#8217;t agree that getting children to read literature that is not age-appropriate is okay as long as they&#8217;re reading; there, I think, parents need to put some time and effort into helping their children select age-appropriate reading material.  Save Gossip Girl for older teens (as it was intended) that want to read some &#8220;fluff&#8221; over the summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I had caught your brosdcast live to call in. I have a daughter 12. She would read any of these books. BUT I can&#039;t allow it! She is an avid reader and reads over 25 chapter books per summer. Why? Because we don&#039;t have television in our home. All our children read more because  of this. However, what concerns me is the current age recommendation on some of the books and shows you are discussing. I was surprised to find information in the Beacon Street Girls series regarding drinking alchohol. My daughter received these books as a gift, I read them, and I returned them. I think the publishers of these books have advanced the age appropriateness of some material. For example, The sisterhood of the Traveling Pants series and other books labled age appropriate by most for a 6th graders are in fact NOT APROPRIATE. Libraries and parents rely on this information. Furthermore and for example, some reviewers of the Sisterhood of the Traveling pants series lable it for 6th grade &amp; up, while other&#039;s lable it appropriate for 9th grade and up. This is a big discrepancy. These books contain sexual material. Also, little girl&#039;s want to live these fantasies and do act out these characters actions. What can actually get children to read is to take away the television and computer games and introduce your children to all kinds of books. DO NOT use these books being promoted to our young girls as an excuse to improve reading. They are truly pathetic. Basic crap. These fictional girl&#039;s actions are not what we want our youth to emulate. Parent&#039;s need to be aware of the actual content, not rely on the publisher&#039;s age recommendations, and learn to say &quot;NO&quot; to marketing and lead by example. Turn off the tube and read too! We absolutely should not be promoting these books and programs to our youth &amp; the lifestyles portrayed. It&#039;s old, but just because everyone is doing it, doesn&#039;t make it right. That&#039;s to the parents. Culture be damned. Wish I could have taken on the woman promoting the Beacon Street Girls live. Would have made for great radio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had caught your brosdcast live to call in. I have a daughter 12. She would read any of these books. BUT I can&#8217;t allow it! She is an avid reader and reads over 25 chapter books per summer. Why? Because we don&#8217;t have television in our home. All our children read more because  of this. However, what concerns me is the current age recommendation on some of the books and shows you are discussing. I was surprised to find information in the Beacon Street Girls series regarding drinking alchohol. My daughter received these books as a gift, I read them, and I returned them. I think the publishers of these books have advanced the age appropriateness of some material. For example, The sisterhood of the Traveling Pants series and other books labled age appropriate by most for a 6th graders are in fact NOT APROPRIATE. Libraries and parents rely on this information. Furthermore and for example, some reviewers of the Sisterhood of the Traveling pants series lable it for 6th grade &amp; up, while other&#8217;s lable it appropriate for 9th grade and up. This is a big discrepancy. These books contain sexual material. Also, little girl&#8217;s want to live these fantasies and do act out these characters actions. What can actually get children to read is to take away the television and computer games and introduce your children to all kinds of books. DO NOT use these books being promoted to our young girls as an excuse to improve reading. They are truly pathetic. Basic crap. These fictional girl&#8217;s actions are not what we want our youth to emulate. Parent&#8217;s need to be aware of the actual content, not rely on the publisher&#8217;s age recommendations, and learn to say &#8220;NO&#8221; to marketing and lead by example. Turn off the tube and read too! We absolutely should not be promoting these books and programs to our youth &amp; the lifestyles portrayed. It&#8217;s old, but just because everyone is doing it, doesn&#8217;t make it right. That&#8217;s to the parents. Culture be damned. Wish I could have taken on the woman promoting the Beacon Street Girls live. Would have made for great radio.</p>
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		<title>By: Elinore</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/10/girls-girls-girls/comment-page-1#comment-4702</link>
		<dc:creator>Elinore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up reading classic and non-classic adult literature, and very little written for children, largely because young adult literature always seemed to embody the patronizing and irrelevant attitudes that some of your panelists presented. 

While some of your speakers talked about preserving girls&#039; innocence, as a teenager, I was more than able to sniff out this kind of condescension. Moreover, like many other teenagers, my friends took risks, had sex, used drugs, drank, got depressed, had eating disorders, attempted suicide, lied to our parents and generally made a lot of mistakes. 

This happens on the Upper East Side where I lived, and where Gossip Girl takes place, as it does in all kinds of communities all around the country.

I encountered the Gossip Girl series a few years ago among the free samples that came to the children&#039;s literacy organization where I worked after college. It is fun even now to see some aspects of my teenage years represented in such fun and popular series. 

Gossip Girl is not pure realism (way too many limos!), and I would have known that just as well when I was 15. The series is certainly refreshing, though, and hearing Cecily von Ziegesar on the show made me like her even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up reading classic and non-classic adult literature, and very little written for children, largely because young adult literature always seemed to embody the patronizing and irrelevant attitudes that some of your panelists presented. </p>
<p>While some of your speakers talked about preserving girls&#8217; innocence, as a teenager, I was more than able to sniff out this kind of condescension. Moreover, like many other teenagers, my friends took risks, had sex, used drugs, drank, got depressed, had eating disorders, attempted suicide, lied to our parents and generally made a lot of mistakes. </p>
<p>This happens on the Upper East Side where I lived, and where Gossip Girl takes place, as it does in all kinds of communities all around the country.</p>
<p>I encountered the Gossip Girl series a few years ago among the free samples that came to the children&#8217;s literacy organization where I worked after college. It is fun even now to see some aspects of my teenage years represented in such fun and popular series. </p>
<p>Gossip Girl is not pure realism (way too many limos!), and I would have known that just as well when I was 15. The series is certainly refreshing, though, and hearing Cecily von Ziegesar on the show made me like her even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Schaefer</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/10/girls-girls-girls/comment-page-1#comment-4701</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Schaefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 29 and my friends and I still laugh about how when we were 12, we were bound and determined to be babysitters because of the influence of The Babysitters Club by Ann M. Martin. Tweens and teens are very influenced by what they see. Writers and editors have a responsibility to keep this in mind when they put something out in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 29 and my friends and I still laugh about how when we were 12, we were bound and determined to be babysitters because of the influence of The Babysitters Club by Ann M. Martin. Tweens and teens are very influenced by what they see. Writers and editors have a responsibility to keep this in mind when they put something out in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Marybeth</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/10/girls-girls-girls/comment-page-1#comment-4698</link>
		<dc:creator>Marybeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What our children see and hear shapes their thoughts and behaviors. We are irresponsible to allow &quot;garbage&quot; into young minds via movies, television, internet and books. The portrayal of girls in &quot;Gossip Girls&quot; makes what they do and stand for &quot;normal&quot;.

I understand the argument that it &quot;raises issues&quot; but unfortunately it more often than not glamorizes these behaviors. If in doubt, just notice the rise in eating disorders with the ideal female size shrinking, and the increase of &quot;cutting&quot; after the movie &quot;Girl Interrupted&quot;.

The media will not be responsible (as evidenced in their history), so we as parents need to step up to the plate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What our children see and hear shapes their thoughts and behaviors. We are irresponsible to allow &#8220;garbage&#8221; into young minds via movies, television, internet and books. The portrayal of girls in &#8220;Gossip Girls&#8221; makes what they do and stand for &#8220;normal&#8221;.</p>
<p>I understand the argument that it &#8220;raises issues&#8221; but unfortunately it more often than not glamorizes these behaviors. If in doubt, just notice the rise in eating disorders with the ideal female size shrinking, and the increase of &#8220;cutting&#8221; after the movie &#8220;Girl Interrupted&#8221;.</p>
<p>The media will not be responsible (as evidenced in their history), so we as parents need to step up to the plate!</p>
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		<title>By: Bette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 23 and have read the Beacon Street Girls books.  

While the Beacon Street Girls books are the more wholesome alternative to the Gossip Girls series, they&#039;re just too unrealistic.  They paint middle school as a friendly fantasy-land where kids are rarely mean to each other.

This simply isn&#039;t true.  Middle school girls are especially vicious; they swear, they spread rumors, they stab each other in the back (not literally, thank God). As someone who was made fun of non-stop in middle school (by girls), I&#039;m almost offended at how unrealistic the Beacon Street Girls books are.

What I&#039;d really like to see is a realistic series for middle school girls that deals with issues like bullies, rumors/gossip, dating, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 23 and have read the Beacon Street Girls books.  </p>
<p>While the Beacon Street Girls books are the more wholesome alternative to the Gossip Girls series, they&#8217;re just too unrealistic.  They paint middle school as a friendly fantasy-land where kids are rarely mean to each other.</p>
<p>This simply isn&#8217;t true.  Middle school girls are especially vicious; they swear, they spread rumors, they stab each other in the back (not literally, thank God). As someone who was made fun of non-stop in middle school (by girls), I&#8217;m almost offended at how unrealistic the Beacon Street Girls books are.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d really like to see is a realistic series for middle school girls that deals with issues like bullies, rumors/gossip, dating, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re actually kinda related.  The mortgage mess was at least partly the result of people seeking instant gratification for their materialistic impulses to have a more grandiose house or use home equity loans for vacations, fancy cars, and damn the long-term consequences.   It&#039;s this same emphasis on impulse, gratification, and superficiality that seems to be celebrated in these books and programs, according to the discussion.

BTW, did anyone see the Wall Street Journal article in August about getting boys to read . . . 
http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB121814900158422243.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re actually kinda related.  The mortgage mess was at least partly the result of people seeking instant gratification for their materialistic impulses to have a more grandiose house or use home equity loans for vacations, fancy cars, and damn the long-term consequences.   It&#8217;s this same emphasis on impulse, gratification, and superficiality that seems to be celebrated in these books and programs, according to the discussion.</p>
<p>BTW, did anyone see the Wall Street Journal article in August about getting boys to read . . .<br />
<a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB121814900158422243.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB121814900158422243.html</a></p>
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