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		<title>By: Kent J</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/american-competitiveness/comment-page-1#comment-6230</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we lack.

Our culture fails live and breathe in an attitude of truth. An example. Business does not ever pay tax. They ALWAYS pass the cost of doing business on to those that pay for their services. Always. Its time to end the taxation on business. It is a graduated tax AGAINST the poor.

The Federal Income tax is CLEARLY way outside the spirit of the constitution. Who are all the idiots that swallowed this CRAP. Taxes should be payed to our state governments and then HOPEFULLY they will fight hard to keep that money in MY FREAKING STATE. Any conservative who does not begin speaking out loud against this crime against free enterprise is an idiot. Lets agree to get rid of this terrible evil against our selves and our children. Why do liberals think that GW should know how much money you earn and how you spend your working hours?

WHY?

And lets get rid of fiat money. It is SO clearly evil and unfair. Oh.. right.. no changes there.. we will just let unelected fed employees print away.

ANd the next time a politician says things like &quot;health care is a right&quot; or &quot;spread the wealth around&quot; lets vote that bastrd OUT.

Oops.. right .. half the country thinks its okay for a politician to even be able to let these freaking phrases slip from their lips.

Obama.. is proof that we have lost the battle on the education front for Free Markets... that is FREEDOM.

VOTE IN THE UNCLE TOM and put African Americans back another 50 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we lack.</p>
<p>Our culture fails live and breathe in an attitude of truth. An example. Business does not ever pay tax. They ALWAYS pass the cost of doing business on to those that pay for their services. Always. Its time to end the taxation on business. It is a graduated tax AGAINST the poor.</p>
<p>The Federal Income tax is CLEARLY way outside the spirit of the constitution. Who are all the idiots that swallowed this CRAP. Taxes should be payed to our state governments and then HOPEFULLY they will fight hard to keep that money in MY FREAKING STATE. Any conservative who does not begin speaking out loud against this crime against free enterprise is an idiot. Lets agree to get rid of this terrible evil against our selves and our children. Why do liberals think that GW should know how much money you earn and how you spend your working hours?</p>
<p>WHY?</p>
<p>And lets get rid of fiat money. It is SO clearly evil and unfair. Oh.. right.. no changes there.. we will just let unelected fed employees print away.</p>
<p>ANd the next time a politician says things like &#8220;health care is a right&#8221; or &#8220;spread the wealth around&#8221; lets vote that bastrd OUT.</p>
<p>Oops.. right .. half the country thinks its okay for a politician to even be able to let these freaking phrases slip from their lips.</p>
<p>Obama.. is proof that we have lost the battle on the education front for Free Markets&#8230; that is FREEDOM.</p>
<p>VOTE IN THE UNCLE TOM and put African Americans back another 50 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesenko Vukadinovic</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/american-competitiveness/comment-page-1#comment-6015</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesenko Vukadinovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Alex.  This was such a weak interview.  I really like Tom&#039;s interviewing style, but sometimes he gets carried away with platitudes.  He called Prof. Porter a competitiveness guru so many times.  But, when you call someone that, and don&#039;t challenge them enough, it just sounds like stroking their egos.  And, I think it is fair to say that people like Prof. Porter and their economic philosophies contributed a lot to the situation we now find ourselves in.  They keep selling their opinions like the ultimate wisdom, and now it is not time to stroke their egos, but to challenge the premise of their claims.  The man is proposing the return to the gilded age.  And, to the education point again, we need to stop expecting our teachers and schools to fix societal problems.  If we solved the poverty problem by allowing our workers to claim their rights through the unions, I guarantee you that our schools will get better!  And we will be more competitive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Alex.  This was such a weak interview.  I really like Tom&#8217;s interviewing style, but sometimes he gets carried away with platitudes.  He called Prof. Porter a competitiveness guru so many times.  But, when you call someone that, and don&#8217;t challenge them enough, it just sounds like stroking their egos.  And, I think it is fair to say that people like Prof. Porter and their economic philosophies contributed a lot to the situation we now find ourselves in.  They keep selling their opinions like the ultimate wisdom, and now it is not time to stroke their egos, but to challenge the premise of their claims.  The man is proposing the return to the gilded age.  And, to the education point again, we need to stop expecting our teachers and schools to fix societal problems.  If we solved the poverty problem by allowing our workers to claim their rights through the unions, I guarantee you that our schools will get better!  And we will be more competitive!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/american-competitiveness/comment-page-1#comment-5957</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom: That was one of the weakest interviews I&#039;ve seen you do. The guy is anti-union, against breaks for the middle class, claims that corperations suffer, and says that all of our jobs are going overseas because we don&#039;t have enough people to fill them. All of these are untrue, but you really didn&#039;t even push him to give data on this. Also, it is well-known that there are tons of talented, American IT people who can&#039;t find a job. Why? Because they can send them to India for a quarter of the price. Simple fact.

Also, Tom said nothing about Porter&#039;s stance on education. Porter knows nothing about education, but then he is proposing models. As an educator myself, I&#039;m greatly offended that someone who has no background in teaching and learning is telling me how schools should be modeled. 

Oh, wait, he has taught--at Harvard. Yes, that institution is so representative of the whole country: A one class per semester load for full professors such as himself and dozens of graduate students to help you with whatever you need. Gee-whiz, Beaver, talk about someone who has been in the trenches!  

Letting someone like Michael Porter form educational policy is like letting someone who has played war-themed video games form our military strategy in Iraq! Nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom: That was one of the weakest interviews I&#8217;ve seen you do. The guy is anti-union, against breaks for the middle class, claims that corperations suffer, and says that all of our jobs are going overseas because we don&#8217;t have enough people to fill them. All of these are untrue, but you really didn&#8217;t even push him to give data on this. Also, it is well-known that there are tons of talented, American IT people who can&#8217;t find a job. Why? Because they can send them to India for a quarter of the price. Simple fact.</p>
<p>Also, Tom said nothing about Porter&#8217;s stance on education. Porter knows nothing about education, but then he is proposing models. As an educator myself, I&#8217;m greatly offended that someone who has no background in teaching and learning is telling me how schools should be modeled. </p>
<p>Oh, wait, he has taught&#8211;at Harvard. Yes, that institution is so representative of the whole country: A one class per semester load for full professors such as himself and dozens of graduate students to help you with whatever you need. Gee-whiz, Beaver, talk about someone who has been in the trenches!  </p>
<p>Letting someone like Michael Porter form educational policy is like letting someone who has played war-themed video games form our military strategy in Iraq! Nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesenko Vukadinovic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesenko Vukadinovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I podcasted the show and listened to it today.  And I must say, I got really worked up about it.  Not only did I disagree with Prof. Porter on so many points, but I could not believe that neither Tom nor any of the callers challenged Prof. Porter&#039;s premise.  He, basically, characterized everything else that is not directed toward advancing American competitiveness in the world `noise&#039;, besides the point and discussion we should have in this country.  Implicitly, that included lifting people from poverty and strengthening the middle class.  Yes, America was much more competitive when there was no bottom to how much American workers could be exploited before they started organizing themselves in unions.  But, what I want to know is the following: how many Americans really benefit from this competitiveness. I&#039;d rather live in Sweden for example, less competitive country, and have good schools, roads, healthcare, safety...  Also, can we fix the public school system as long as we have such a poor and overworked population?  That is what drags our schools down, not some systemic problem as Prof. Porter claimed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I podcasted the show and listened to it today.  And I must say, I got really worked up about it.  Not only did I disagree with Prof. Porter on so many points, but I could not believe that neither Tom nor any of the callers challenged Prof. Porter&#8217;s premise.  He, basically, characterized everything else that is not directed toward advancing American competitiveness in the world `noise&#8217;, besides the point and discussion we should have in this country.  Implicitly, that included lifting people from poverty and strengthening the middle class.  Yes, America was much more competitive when there was no bottom to how much American workers could be exploited before they started organizing themselves in unions.  But, what I want to know is the following: how many Americans really benefit from this competitiveness. I&#8217;d rather live in Sweden for example, less competitive country, and have good schools, roads, healthcare, safety&#8230;  Also, can we fix the public school system as long as we have such a poor and overworked population?  That is what drags our schools down, not some systemic problem as Prof. Porter claimed.</p>
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		<title>By: linda johnston</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/american-competitiveness/comment-page-1#comment-5826</link>
		<dc:creator>linda johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in regards to mr porters comments about how the auto industry should bot be helped. let me ask him this. who is going to pay all the workers who have retired pensions? these people worked hard and many years for their pension.  i have an idea. my mother-in-law is one of those that worked at gm all her life. she will lose her pension. Mr porter can take his wages for two weeks every month and send it to my mother-in-law. i am sure he can afford it whereas my mother-in-law cannot afford to have her pension stopped. she paid into that pension with the belief that she would get her pension when she retired for the rest of her life. and lets not forget about all the workers that will be out of jobs should our auto industry close!
another comment. the ceo&#039;s and wall street boys are crooks. look at the bonuses they get. GREED. how much money do they need. they don&#039;t look out for the american workers. they look out for only themselves.
last comment. instead of having everything we buy coming from china (made in china) let&#039;s start making the items here in America. i can&#039;t stand it when i go to buy a item and i look where it was made and guess what its china. i bet if you went to china you won&#039;t find many (if any) items made in the USA.
thanks for your time
linda johnston</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in regards to mr porters comments about how the auto industry should bot be helped. let me ask him this. who is going to pay all the workers who have retired pensions? these people worked hard and many years for their pension.  i have an idea. my mother-in-law is one of those that worked at gm all her life. she will lose her pension. Mr porter can take his wages for two weeks every month and send it to my mother-in-law. i am sure he can afford it whereas my mother-in-law cannot afford to have her pension stopped. she paid into that pension with the belief that she would get her pension when she retired for the rest of her life. and lets not forget about all the workers that will be out of jobs should our auto industry close!<br />
another comment. the ceo&#8217;s and wall street boys are crooks. look at the bonuses they get. GREED. how much money do they need. they don&#8217;t look out for the american workers. they look out for only themselves.<br />
last comment. instead of having everything we buy coming from china (made in china) let&#8217;s start making the items here in America. i can&#8217;t stand it when i go to buy a item and i look where it was made and guess what its china. i bet if you went to china you won&#8217;t find many (if any) items made in the USA.<br />
thanks for your time<br />
linda johnston</p>
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		<title>By: Sam E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to defend Mr. Porter; maybe most of the poster here do not realize it but Mr. Porter is an economist he does not deal with ideas such as social welfare or equal distribution of income. What he is concerned with is how to make the economy more effective as a whole not necessarily more fair. He is right that giving more tax breaks does not address the root cause of why many americans are not getting ahead and actually distracts from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to defend Mr. Porter; maybe most of the poster here do not realize it but Mr. Porter is an economist he does not deal with ideas such as social welfare or equal distribution of income. What he is concerned with is how to make the economy more effective as a whole not necessarily more fair. He is right that giving more tax breaks does not address the root cause of why many americans are not getting ahead and actually distracts from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Bowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Bowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OUCH!  Mr. Porter seems to have struck a nerve. I have never seen a more unanimous string of comments in response to any program, editorial, column, etc.

What strikes me is that all of them obviously come from people with experience out here in the &quot;real America&quot; (what&#039;s left of it) after 28 years of Reagan Voodoo economics. I just hope it&#039;s not too late.

Great job folks! Good luck to all, we&#039;re going to need it.

Jerry Bowers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OUCH!  Mr. Porter seems to have struck a nerve. I have never seen a more unanimous string of comments in response to any program, editorial, column, etc.</p>
<p>What strikes me is that all of them obviously come from people with experience out here in the &#8220;real America&#8221; (what&#8217;s left of it) after 28 years of Reagan Voodoo economics. I just hope it&#8217;s not too late.</p>
<p>Great job folks! Good luck to all, we&#8217;re going to need it.</p>
<p>Jerry Bowers</p>
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		<title>By: Philip R. Olenick, Attorney at Law</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/american-competitiveness/comment-page-1#comment-5820</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip R. Olenick, Attorney at Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened in vain for the economic strategy that your guest averred was urgently needed by the incoming President, but instead was reminded of the pace of play in Monty Python&#039;s famous soccer game among world philosophers, each of whom wandered around aimlessly, oblivious of each others&#039; presence.

Worse, his faux even-handed criticism of victims and perpetrators alike appeared designed to distract attention from the obvious question raised by the increase in American productivity he acknowledged had occurred: So where did the fruits of that increased productivity go? Could it have gone to . . . the &quot;top dogs?&quot;

As many of the posters above have pointed out, that term hardly includes engineers and inventors - their jobs have been cheap-sourced along with everyone else&#039;s, with H1Bs obtained by fraudulent corporate certifications that no Americans could be found to do the jobs.

The proper epithet for your guest was not &quot;super guru&quot; but &quot;apologist.&quot; Congratulations, you just wasted an hour of your air on advice to the incoming progressive administration from an apologist for the faction that was resoundingly rejected in the election. And, no, we&#039;re not a &quot;center-right&quot; country! Only those who look at surface labels and ignore the answers given to policy questions in surveys make that assertion.

The show was an insult to your listeners&#039; intelligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened in vain for the economic strategy that your guest averred was urgently needed by the incoming President, but instead was reminded of the pace of play in Monty Python&#8217;s famous soccer game among world philosophers, each of whom wandered around aimlessly, oblivious of each others&#8217; presence.</p>
<p>Worse, his faux even-handed criticism of victims and perpetrators alike appeared designed to distract attention from the obvious question raised by the increase in American productivity he acknowledged had occurred: So where did the fruits of that increased productivity go? Could it have gone to . . . the &#8220;top dogs?&#8221;</p>
<p>As many of the posters above have pointed out, that term hardly includes engineers and inventors &#8211; their jobs have been cheap-sourced along with everyone else&#8217;s, with H1Bs obtained by fraudulent corporate certifications that no Americans could be found to do the jobs.</p>
<p>The proper epithet for your guest was not &#8220;super guru&#8221; but &#8220;apologist.&#8221; Congratulations, you just wasted an hour of your air on advice to the incoming progressive administration from an apologist for the faction that was resoundingly rejected in the election. And, no, we&#8217;re not a &#8220;center-right&#8221; country! Only those who look at surface labels and ignore the answers given to policy questions in surveys make that assertion.</p>
<p>The show was an insult to your listeners&#8217; intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwen Frankfeldt</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/american-competitiveness/comment-page-1#comment-5819</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwen Frankfeldt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on you, Tom Ashbrook, for giving special authority to Michael Porter&#039;s deeply flawed views by repeatedly referring to him as a &quot;super-guru.&quot; Someone whose ideas are so partisan and out of touch should be countered by another expert guest with a different worldview. Instead, we had callers making excellent points, which Porter promptly and authoritatively dismissed, and there was no one to explain with at least equal authority just how wrong he was, and how false and misleading were the supposed facts and statistics he cited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you, Tom Ashbrook, for giving special authority to Michael Porter&#8217;s deeply flawed views by repeatedly referring to him as a &#8220;super-guru.&#8221; Someone whose ideas are so partisan and out of touch should be countered by another expert guest with a different worldview. Instead, we had callers making excellent points, which Porter promptly and authoritatively dismissed, and there was no one to explain with at least equal authority just how wrong he was, and how false and misleading were the supposed facts and statistics he cited.</p>
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		<title>By: Topic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Topic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>****The greatest determinant of a child’s educational performance is their parent’s own education and literacy. So much of education is taught in the home****

Above comment is very true, also I like to stress that even parents are not very educated, but if they are able to realize how important education is to their kids future, they should put that emphasis on their kids.  

I came from another country, we don&#039;t have state of the art of facilities, and programs.  But the emphasis on education is enough to get kids wanting to do good at school.  The education is the peer pressure instead of being more cool or more popular in pop cultures like here in this country.

I&#039;m not saying which education system is better than the other, but to achieve a goal, we need to take examples and reform our existing system.

Think about it, schools here have rich resources, just not enough students taking full advantage of them.

As long as the parents recognize the importance of education, even if not so educated parents can still produce very educated elites.  They can do so by encouraging their kids to make friends who has same interest to achieve, so they can do homework together.  

There are so many ways to reform our education system, we need to start from &quot;changing the culture&quot; of viewing the value of education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>****The greatest determinant of a child’s educational performance is their parent’s own education and literacy. So much of education is taught in the home****</p>
<p>Above comment is very true, also I like to stress that even parents are not very educated, but if they are able to realize how important education is to their kids future, they should put that emphasis on their kids.  </p>
<p>I came from another country, we don&#8217;t have state of the art of facilities, and programs.  But the emphasis on education is enough to get kids wanting to do good at school.  The education is the peer pressure instead of being more cool or more popular in pop cultures like here in this country.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying which education system is better than the other, but to achieve a goal, we need to take examples and reform our existing system.</p>
<p>Think about it, schools here have rich resources, just not enough students taking full advantage of them.</p>
<p>As long as the parents recognize the importance of education, even if not so educated parents can still produce very educated elites.  They can do so by encouraging their kids to make friends who has same interest to achieve, so they can do homework together.  </p>
<p>There are so many ways to reform our education system, we need to start from &#8220;changing the culture&#8221; of viewing the value of education.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank the Underemployed Professional</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/american-competitiveness/comment-page-1#comment-5815</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank the Underemployed Professional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After listening to the first five minutes of this show it doesn&#039;t sound as though Mr. Potter has anything new to say that we haven&#039;t heard before from other free market dogmatists.

So far he&#039;s said that (1) We need to reduce the costs of doing business (taxes, regulations, litigation) and (2) we need better education.

That might sound good until you dig deeper.  Just what does reducing business taxes, regulations, and litigation mean?  It means that federal and state governments need to either cut back on public welfare services or get the money from some other source (individuals).  It means having fewer environmental protections and civil rights protections.  Basically, it means having a lower quality of life in this country and transforming our business environment into what the third world has--few environmental protections, etc.

Then he advocates having more and better education (for what--non-existent job positions that were outsourced to India and China?) when we already have a large oversupply of qualified Americans in a great many knowledge-based fields, including technical fields and fields that require advanced degrees such as Ph.D. scientists, lawyers, MBAs, and even patent lawyers (requires two degrees--science/engineering and law--OMG--an oversupply--how is that possible for something that requires so much education?).

Any way you slice it, it&#039;s very difficult if not impossible to compete against people in other countries who are willing to work for far lower wages and a far lower standard of living than what Americans are accustomed to in addition to their not having environmental protections, civil rights protections, and personal injury protections, etc.

Is there something we can do?  Yes.  Put up barriers against the economic force of global labor arbitrage and dramatically reduce immigration to pre-1965 levels to combat population explosion at home.

The solution to our &quot;competitiveness&quot; problem is not to join the other billions of people in the world living in third world poverty but rather, we need...

TARIFFS

That dirty, filthy word--tariffs and trade protectionism.

To this date, no politician, economist, journalist, or pundit has been able to refute the argument that Global Labor Arbitrage will decrease Americans&#039; standard of living.  When the supply of labor increases dramatically relative to capital the price point, wages and standard of living, must decrease; it&#039;s just that simple.  (If they could refute it, they&#039;d be shouting the persuasive logic from rooftops.)

Instead of acknowledging our nation&#039;s real economic problems, our politicians and intellectuals are selling Americans on education and the sheeple have gobbled it up like an opiate of the masses.  It makes you wonder what fraction of the populace is even aware of the concept of tariffs or not having immigration or the concepts of supply and demand for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After listening to the first five minutes of this show it doesn&#8217;t sound as though Mr. Potter has anything new to say that we haven&#8217;t heard before from other free market dogmatists.</p>
<p>So far he&#8217;s said that (1) We need to reduce the costs of doing business (taxes, regulations, litigation) and (2) we need better education.</p>
<p>That might sound good until you dig deeper.  Just what does reducing business taxes, regulations, and litigation mean?  It means that federal and state governments need to either cut back on public welfare services or get the money from some other source (individuals).  It means having fewer environmental protections and civil rights protections.  Basically, it means having a lower quality of life in this country and transforming our business environment into what the third world has&#8211;few environmental protections, etc.</p>
<p>Then he advocates having more and better education (for what&#8211;non-existent job positions that were outsourced to India and China?) when we already have a large oversupply of qualified Americans in a great many knowledge-based fields, including technical fields and fields that require advanced degrees such as Ph.D. scientists, lawyers, MBAs, and even patent lawyers (requires two degrees&#8211;science/engineering and law&#8211;OMG&#8211;an oversupply&#8211;how is that possible for something that requires so much education?).</p>
<p>Any way you slice it, it&#8217;s very difficult if not impossible to compete against people in other countries who are willing to work for far lower wages and a far lower standard of living than what Americans are accustomed to in addition to their not having environmental protections, civil rights protections, and personal injury protections, etc.</p>
<p>Is there something we can do?  Yes.  Put up barriers against the economic force of global labor arbitrage and dramatically reduce immigration to pre-1965 levels to combat population explosion at home.</p>
<p>The solution to our &#8220;competitiveness&#8221; problem is not to join the other billions of people in the world living in third world poverty but rather, we need&#8230;</p>
<p>TARIFFS</p>
<p>That dirty, filthy word&#8211;tariffs and trade protectionism.</p>
<p>To this date, no politician, economist, journalist, or pundit has been able to refute the argument that Global Labor Arbitrage will decrease Americans&#8217; standard of living.  When the supply of labor increases dramatically relative to capital the price point, wages and standard of living, must decrease; it&#8217;s just that simple.  (If they could refute it, they&#8217;d be shouting the persuasive logic from rooftops.)</p>
<p>Instead of acknowledging our nation&#8217;s real economic problems, our politicians and intellectuals are selling Americans on education and the sheeple have gobbled it up like an opiate of the masses.  It makes you wonder what fraction of the populace is even aware of the concept of tariffs or not having immigration or the concepts of supply and demand for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob Agle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Agle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to Mr. Porter briefly in the car on a rebroadcast of On Point. Then I read some of the posts here. I don&#039;t see anyone who agrees with him -- and neither do I. His attitude seems to be that all government in the U. S., including the public education system should be geared to support business, and BIG business, at that. Most of what I&#039;ve learned about business is that its primary purpose is the redistribution of wealth from the many to the few. The rest I learned is that we need to watch businesses and &quot;entrepreneurs&quot; like hawks lest they poison us, degrade our environments, and mislead us about the products and services they attempt to sell.

One comment from Mr. Porter particularly rankled me -- paraphrasing, &quot;The public education system isn&#039;t preparing enough students to provide the skills needed by the business community.&quot; I think that what they want is to make schools into factories that prepare automatons that kowtow to the the demands of these business &quot;leaders.&quot; Students who don&#039;t fit into their mold are somehow defective, or the schools are failures because they can&#039;t fit all students into their molds.

Let&#039;s be clear, the current business leadership that we have has led us to the edge of ruin with the motto that bigger is better, that greed is good! I am not anti-business; but, I am anti-big business. The bigger the business is, the more it expects us to serve it, instead of serving us.

Bob Agle
Flint, MI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to Mr. Porter briefly in the car on a rebroadcast of On Point. Then I read some of the posts here. I don&#8217;t see anyone who agrees with him &#8212; and neither do I. His attitude seems to be that all government in the U. S., including the public education system should be geared to support business, and BIG business, at that. Most of what I&#8217;ve learned about business is that its primary purpose is the redistribution of wealth from the many to the few. The rest I learned is that we need to watch businesses and &#8220;entrepreneurs&#8221; like hawks lest they poison us, degrade our environments, and mislead us about the products and services they attempt to sell.</p>
<p>One comment from Mr. Porter particularly rankled me &#8212; paraphrasing, &#8220;The public education system isn&#8217;t preparing enough students to provide the skills needed by the business community.&#8221; I think that what they want is to make schools into factories that prepare automatons that kowtow to the the demands of these business &#8220;leaders.&#8221; Students who don&#8217;t fit into their mold are somehow defective, or the schools are failures because they can&#8217;t fit all students into their molds.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be clear, the current business leadership that we have has led us to the edge of ruin with the motto that bigger is better, that greed is good! I am not anti-business; but, I am anti-big business. The bigger the business is, the more it expects us to serve it, instead of serving us.</p>
<p>Bob Agle<br />
Flint, MI</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are referred to as Top Dogs because they are thought of as amoral and greedy not as bright and successful</description>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an engineer for a tier one supplier in the Metro Detroit area.  I disagree with Mr. Porter&#039;s common assumption that retraining a education will fix everything.  Our company uses contractors from India for CAD design, engineering services, FEA and software validation.  Less than 10 years ago these positions were &quot;high tech&quot; in demand jobs that people could be trained for.  What does Mr. Porter see the midwest train for if blue collar and white collar jobs are lost overseas?  There are plenty of educated people in the midwest companies just don&#039;t want to pay a typical American wage when they can hire an Indian for much less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an engineer for a tier one supplier in the Metro Detroit area.  I disagree with Mr. Porter&#8217;s common assumption that retraining a education will fix everything.  Our company uses contractors from India for CAD design, engineering services, FEA and software validation.  Less than 10 years ago these positions were &#8220;high tech&#8221; in demand jobs that people could be trained for.  What does Mr. Porter see the midwest train for if blue collar and white collar jobs are lost overseas?  There are plenty of educated people in the midwest companies just don&#8217;t want to pay a typical American wage when they can hire an Indian for much less.</p>
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		<title>By: jim agans</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim agans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one goes into IT anymore due to competition from abroad. I know many, many people who are over 50 and no longer have a job that pays a living wage or &#039;benefits&#039;-they have had to train they&#039;re replacements for severance pay.

They are outsourced. I work w/ more H!B workers than nationals and have for about 2 years.

Education as an answer is nothing but crap. Hes telling me that the 1 billion people worldwide are less educated or capable? They arent - and corp usa knows it.
What he has forgotten , as well as obama or clinton or Bush is that demand is - and wont be up for many years to come .
Sounds like the 1920&#039;s all over again?

Laws of supply and demand apply to labor and always have. Wait until hes replaced w/ someone willing to come here and do his job for 5 figures instaed of six.

This man has the ear of DC. So does Paul Rubin and other Clintonites( Im not going to mention Bush  because we all know its patriotic for us to give those wages to a non resident.) 

Nothing will change. Nothing will get better as far as the economy for years out. We need a different way of thinking. Globalization isnt it. Tort reform isnt it. 
This man needs to lose his job. After 2 years of looking for work and telling his kids they aint going to college - his perceptive will change.

Cmon Tom - get someone w/ a bit of real sense and imagination on and stop wasting my time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one goes into IT anymore due to competition from abroad. I know many, many people who are over 50 and no longer have a job that pays a living wage or &#8216;benefits&#8217;-they have had to train they&#8217;re replacements for severance pay.</p>
<p>They are outsourced. I work w/ more H!B workers than nationals and have for about 2 years.</p>
<p>Education as an answer is nothing but crap. Hes telling me that the 1 billion people worldwide are less educated or capable? They arent &#8211; and corp usa knows it.<br />
What he has forgotten , as well as obama or clinton or Bush is that demand is &#8211; and wont be up for many years to come .<br />
Sounds like the 1920&#8217;s all over again?</p>
<p>Laws of supply and demand apply to labor and always have. Wait until hes replaced w/ someone willing to come here and do his job for 5 figures instaed of six.</p>
<p>This man has the ear of DC. So does Paul Rubin and other Clintonites( Im not going to mention Bush  because we all know its patriotic for us to give those wages to a non resident.) </p>
<p>Nothing will change. Nothing will get better as far as the economy for years out. We need a different way of thinking. Globalization isnt it. Tort reform isnt it.<br />
This man needs to lose his job. After 2 years of looking for work and telling his kids they aint going to college &#8211; his perceptive will change.</p>
<p>Cmon Tom &#8211; get someone w/ a bit of real sense and imagination on and stop wasting my time.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Spang Goodrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Spang Goodrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Onpoint,

Thanks Tom for your many informative shows especially this one with Michael Porter.  

However, I never cease to be amazed that even Harvard professors perpetuate the &quot;US corporate taxes are among the highest in the world&quot; myth.  

While it is true that the &quot;nominal rate&quot; is high (US (39.3%) ranks second to Japan (39.5%) among the 30 OECD countries*, that is not the crucial issue.  

There are so many loopholes and allowable deductions that the US corporate share of gross domestic product (GDP) (1.8%) ranks 28th among the 30 nations (source: Table 2.1 from http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/69xx/doc6902/11-28-CorporateTax.pdf). Only Germany 1.0% and Iceland 1.1% pay less.  Of the larger OECD nations, France and the UK pay 2.8%, Japan pays 3.1%, Italy 3.2%, and Australia 5.3%.  

Furthermore, in 2003, the total US tax was about 25.6% versus 33.9% for the other G7 members.  Of this 25.6% only 2.1% was paid by US coporations versus 2.7% by the other G7 corporations.  So US corporations contribute less than 10% of our total tax revenues.  Whom to bailout the 10% or the 90%? (Source: http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/1000976_Tax_Fact_05-08-06.pdf)  

I hope you will put this in your info database for future shows when some corporate advocate tries to pull the wool over your eyes once again. 

Peace,
Peter Spang Goodrich

* Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Korea, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovak Republic, Spain, Sweden,   
Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Onpoint,</p>
<p>Thanks Tom for your many informative shows especially this one with Michael Porter.  </p>
<p>However, I never cease to be amazed that even Harvard professors perpetuate the &#8220;US corporate taxes are among the highest in the world&#8221; myth.  </p>
<p>While it is true that the &#8220;nominal rate&#8221; is high (US (39.3%) ranks second to Japan (39.5%) among the 30 OECD countries*, that is not the crucial issue.  </p>
<p>There are so many loopholes and allowable deductions that the US corporate share of gross domestic product (GDP) (1.8%) ranks 28th among the 30 nations (source: Table 2.1 from <a href="http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/69xx/doc6902/11-28-CorporateTax.pdf)" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/69xx/doc6902/11-28-CorporateTax.pdf)</a>. Only Germany 1.0% and Iceland 1.1% pay less.  Of the larger OECD nations, France and the UK pay 2.8%, Japan pays 3.1%, Italy 3.2%, and Australia 5.3%.  </p>
<p>Furthermore, in 2003, the total US tax was about 25.6% versus 33.9% for the other G7 members.  Of this 25.6% only 2.1% was paid by US coporations versus 2.7% by the other G7 corporations.  So US corporations contribute less than 10% of our total tax revenues.  Whom to bailout the 10% or the 90%? (Source: <a href="http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/1000976_Tax_Fact_05-08-06.pdf)" rel="nofollow">http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/1000976_Tax_Fact_05-08-06.pdf)</a>  </p>
<p>I hope you will put this in your info database for future shows when some corporate advocate tries to pull the wool over your eyes once again. </p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Peter Spang Goodrich</p>
<p>* Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Korea, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovak Republic, Spain, Sweden,<br />
Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Bliss</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/american-competitiveness/comment-page-1#comment-5806</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Bliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listening to Mr. Porter voicing the usual &quot;talking points&quot; offends me. Mr. Porter mentioned &quot;corporate tax rates&quot;, rates are really irrelevant, and tax liability is the issue. Talking about having the second high corporate income tax without the mention of the U.S. having the highest number of corporate tax loopholes troubles me.
   Many large multinational corporations pay no taxes at all. According to the GAO more than 60% of U.S. controlled corporations with at least $250 million in assets (representing 93 percent of all corporate assets reported to the IRS) reported no federal tax liability each year between 1996 and 2000, while the economy boomed and corporate profits soared. 71% of foreign-based firms operating in the U.S. during that same period paid no U.S. income taxes. According to Citizens for Tax Justice, 82 of 275 top U.S. corporations paid zero taxes between 2001 and 2003, although they earned $102 billion in pre-tax profits. 46 companies with a combined profit of $42.6 billion paid no federal income taxes in 2003 alone. Instead they received rebates totaling $5.4 billion.
   One of the simplest ways some corporations have reduced their taxes is by relocating their headquarters offshore on paper (a relatively simple transaction known as “corporate inversions”). This scam is expected to cost the U.S. $5 billion over the next decade, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation. By paying just $30,000 to establish a simple postal drop, for instance, Ingersoll-Rand expects to save $40 million per year by declaring itself headquartered in Bermuda. Dozens of companies have undergone corporate inversions to reduce their taxes while continuing to enjoy U.S. protections.
  Mr. Porter&#039;s lack of mentioning the increase of productivity and the decrease in wages is also troubling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to Mr. Porter voicing the usual &#8220;talking points&#8221; offends me. Mr. Porter mentioned &#8220;corporate tax rates&#8221;, rates are really irrelevant, and tax liability is the issue. Talking about having the second high corporate income tax without the mention of the U.S. having the highest number of corporate tax loopholes troubles me.<br />
   Many large multinational corporations pay no taxes at all. According to the GAO more than 60% of U.S. controlled corporations with at least $250 million in assets (representing 93 percent of all corporate assets reported to the IRS) reported no federal tax liability each year between 1996 and 2000, while the economy boomed and corporate profits soared. 71% of foreign-based firms operating in the U.S. during that same period paid no U.S. income taxes. According to Citizens for Tax Justice, 82 of 275 top U.S. corporations paid zero taxes between 2001 and 2003, although they earned $102 billion in pre-tax profits. 46 companies with a combined profit of $42.6 billion paid no federal income taxes in 2003 alone. Instead they received rebates totaling $5.4 billion.<br />
   One of the simplest ways some corporations have reduced their taxes is by relocating their headquarters offshore on paper (a relatively simple transaction known as “corporate inversions”). This scam is expected to cost the U.S. $5 billion over the next decade, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation. By paying just $30,000 to establish a simple postal drop, for instance, Ingersoll-Rand expects to save $40 million per year by declaring itself headquartered in Bermuda. Dozens of companies have undergone corporate inversions to reduce their taxes while continuing to enjoy U.S. protections.<br />
  Mr. Porter&#8217;s lack of mentioning the increase of productivity and the decrease in wages is also troubling.</p>
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		<title>By: mark Brown in NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark Brown in NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an idea.

Yes, We need to do more then bail out the banks and the car companies.  Yes, we need a new STRATEGY to rebuild our country, rather then just bailing out all the companies, and rewarding (all) the bad (and stupid) behaviors of the past.

(written before hearing the show...)
Yes, here&#039;s a concrete idea, YES, bail out the Car companies, WITH a CATCH.

Instead of rewarding GM for targeting individual autos,
we, the people and government paying for the buyout 
need to &quot;push&quot; GM, into a new business, that will work with the new infrastructure we are attempting to build

To save the Car companies, we need to change them FROM car companies INTO transportation companies.  They need to be refocused from selling individual cars to mass transit solutions.

See my blog for a suggested reading.
Essentially, we can SAVE the car companies by changing them to provide public transportation to help save energy and rebuild our infrastructure.

Yes, it IS imposing our will on the company, however the nearly 1 million indirect jobs in the auto (and parts and associated) industries are WAY too important to throw away, and we ABSOLUTELY need to rebuild the country&#039;s infrastructure anyway.
See my blog entry here: http://sos-newdeal.blogspot.com/2008/11/next-prediction-save-car-companies.html

There are a great deal of pro&#039;s and cons. however, I think that saving this plethora of jobs, as well as changing our economic base AWAY from OIL based industries.

It takes a VILLAGE to raise a child, it takes a COUNTRY to redefine it&#039;s industries.
mark brown in NJ

PS:  It would also be interesting to make GM PAY for destroying the previously existing Mass transit system before the bus. (streetcars and trolleys...)
see my post..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an idea.</p>
<p>Yes, We need to do more then bail out the banks and the car companies.  Yes, we need a new STRATEGY to rebuild our country, rather then just bailing out all the companies, and rewarding (all) the bad (and stupid) behaviors of the past.</p>
<p>(written before hearing the show&#8230;)<br />
Yes, here&#8217;s a concrete idea, YES, bail out the Car companies, WITH a CATCH.</p>
<p>Instead of rewarding GM for targeting individual autos,<br />
we, the people and government paying for the buyout<br />
need to &#8220;push&#8221; GM, into a new business, that will work with the new infrastructure we are attempting to build</p>
<p>To save the Car companies, we need to change them FROM car companies INTO transportation companies.  They need to be refocused from selling individual cars to mass transit solutions.</p>
<p>See my blog for a suggested reading.<br />
Essentially, we can SAVE the car companies by changing them to provide public transportation to help save energy and rebuild our infrastructure.</p>
<p>Yes, it IS imposing our will on the company, however the nearly 1 million indirect jobs in the auto (and parts and associated) industries are WAY too important to throw away, and we ABSOLUTELY need to rebuild the country&#8217;s infrastructure anyway.<br />
See my blog entry here: <a href="http://sos-newdeal.blogspot.com/2008/11/next-prediction-save-car-companies.html" rel="nofollow">http://sos-newdeal.blogspot.com/2008/11/next-prediction-save-car-companies.html</a></p>
<p>There are a great deal of pro&#8217;s and cons. however, I think that saving this plethora of jobs, as well as changing our economic base AWAY from OIL based industries.</p>
<p>It takes a VILLAGE to raise a child, it takes a COUNTRY to redefine it&#8217;s industries.<br />
mark brown in NJ</p>
<p>PS:  It would also be interesting to make GM PAY for destroying the previously existing Mass transit system before the bus. (streetcars and trolleys&#8230;)<br />
see my post..</p>
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		<title>By: Chris S.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a much more fundamental discussion that needs to occur, which is what are the values that we will use as metrics when discussing the economy?  Growth?  Sustainability?  It&#039;s apparent that it&#039;s about sheer growth for Mr. Porter; I have no doubt that his ideas on business and education would help meet that end.  But growth and prosperity do not necessarily equate to long-term health, happiness, and equality, which are also values that we ostensibly hold dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a much more fundamental discussion that needs to occur, which is what are the values that we will use as metrics when discussing the economy?  Growth?  Sustainability?  It&#8217;s apparent that it&#8217;s about sheer growth for Mr. Porter; I have no doubt that his ideas on business and education would help meet that end.  But growth and prosperity do not necessarily equate to long-term health, happiness, and equality, which are also values that we ostensibly hold dear.</p>
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