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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/future-of-gop/comment-page-1#comment-6035</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a few other posters have highlighted, the big reason the Republican party is currently on its way down is hypocrisy.  

You can&#039;t be for &quot;personal freedom&quot; and yet be against Choice and against equal marriage.  

You can&#039;t be for &quot;limited government&quot; and yet double its size.  

You can&#039;t be strong on defense and yet make disastrous mistakes in Iraq, in setting up the ridiculous TSA, leaving our ports unguarded, messing up our image in the world, etc.

And how does &quot;fiscal responsibility&quot; square with tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts?  

Or energy policy with &quot;drill baby drill&quot;?

The Republican party from the top down has become a party of hypocrites.  They have become a caricature.

Let me tell you when I&#039;ll vote Republican: when they have sensible fiscal, energy, and security policies.  When they uphold the right to marry the love of your choice, and when they recognize that in order to REDUCE abortions they have to keep them safe and legal and educate the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a few other posters have highlighted, the big reason the Republican party is currently on its way down is hypocrisy.  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t be for &#8220;personal freedom&#8221; and yet be against Choice and against equal marriage.  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t be for &#8220;limited government&#8221; and yet double its size.  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t be strong on defense and yet make disastrous mistakes in Iraq, in setting up the ridiculous TSA, leaving our ports unguarded, messing up our image in the world, etc.</p>
<p>And how does &#8220;fiscal responsibility&#8221; square with tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts?  </p>
<p>Or energy policy with &#8220;drill baby drill&#8221;?</p>
<p>The Republican party from the top down has become a party of hypocrites.  They have become a caricature.</p>
<p>Let me tell you when I&#8217;ll vote Republican: when they have sensible fiscal, energy, and security policies.  When they uphold the right to marry the love of your choice, and when they recognize that in order to REDUCE abortions they have to keep them safe and legal and educate the public.</p>
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		<title>By: AV</title>
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		<dc:creator>AV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yeah, AV - but the Greens and Nader have no chance. So what’s the guy to do? &lt;/i&gt;

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Alex, it&#039;s really simple: support them, starting at the local and state level. It&#039;ll take time to build them up, but without that support, it&#039;s not possible. And supporting those who are not speaking about these issues is not likely to bring about a change for better.

Progressives in slam-dunk states of either color (red/blue) can &lt;b&gt;easily&lt;/b&gt; vote for these party candidates without splitting the vote during a Presidential election and help them get national 5% vote which is essential.

Progressives can start supporting initiatives to improve our democratic system and call for political reform. We&#039;re living in one of the free-est countries in the world and not a dictatorship, so I see no reason for pessimism or cultivating a defeatist attitude. The only one obstructing us is the man in the mirror - our own laziness and apathy.

There are a lot of exciting initiatives happening like &lt;b&gt;Common Cause&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Fair Vote&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Open Debate&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;National Initiative for Democracy&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Nov 5 Movement&lt;/b&gt; (http://vimeo.com/2156858) which make me optimistic. Google them, support them and get involved - one step at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yeah, AV &#8211; but the Greens and Nader have no chance. So what’s the guy to do? </i></p>
<p>===</p>
<p>Alex, it&#8217;s really simple: support them, starting at the local and state level. It&#8217;ll take time to build them up, but without that support, it&#8217;s not possible. And supporting those who are not speaking about these issues is not likely to bring about a change for better.</p>
<p>Progressives in slam-dunk states of either color (red/blue) can <b>easily</b> vote for these party candidates without splitting the vote during a Presidential election and help them get national 5% vote which is essential.</p>
<p>Progressives can start supporting initiatives to improve our democratic system and call for political reform. We&#8217;re living in one of the free-est countries in the world and not a dictatorship, so I see no reason for pessimism or cultivating a defeatist attitude. The only one obstructing us is the man in the mirror &#8211; our own laziness and apathy.</p>
<p>There are a lot of exciting initiatives happening like <b>Common Cause</b>, <b>Fair Vote</b>, <b>Open Debate</b>, <b>National Initiative for Democracy</b> and <b>Nov 5 Movement</b> (<a href="http://vimeo.com/2156858" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/2156858</a>) which make me optimistic. Google them, support them and get involved &#8211; one step at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/future-of-gop/comment-page-1#comment-5847</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, AV - but the Greens and Nader have no chance. So what&#039;s the guy to do? I already dislike the plan to help mortgage borrowers and car makers being hatched in DC. Who&#039;s gonna help a potential home buyer/saver like myself? Unfortunately, Republicans are capable of wreaking untold havoc upon the country, while Democrats in their populist zeal will alienate many of their supporters by picking and chosing who deserves federal help and who does not. Both parties ultimately devide the population and conquer the pot of money sitting in the treasury. Where the hell is Ron Paul?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, AV &#8211; but the Greens and Nader have no chance. So what&#8217;s the guy to do? I already dislike the plan to help mortgage borrowers and car makers being hatched in DC. Who&#8217;s gonna help a potential home buyer/saver like myself? Unfortunately, Republicans are capable of wreaking untold havoc upon the country, while Democrats in their populist zeal will alienate many of their supporters by picking and chosing who deserves federal help and who does not. Both parties ultimately devide the population and conquer the pot of money sitting in the treasury. Where the hell is Ron Paul?</p>
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		<title>By: AV</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/future-of-gop/comment-page-1#comment-5839</link>
		<dc:creator>AV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, that&#039;s exactly why I support Green Party and Nader - they are explicitly against the military-industrial complex, unlike the other two major parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, that&#8217;s exactly why I support Green Party and Nader &#8211; they are explicitly against the military-industrial complex, unlike the other two major parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Majawill and AV  - I object to Republicans being a default party that is strong on defense. That&#039;s all. History is, of course, subject to interpretations and we can argue till cows come home who owns which disasters. 

I have only been eligible to vote in 2004 and 2008 and I voted Democrat both times. Being from the former USSR I have seen first hand how a big country can be bankrupted by military expenditures. My concern is that Republicans are all too happy to spend billions fighting an enemy that&#039;s probably spending 10 bucks a day or something like that. That&#039;s the surest way to be defeated. I do not want to have another immigration in my life. Thus, I ill not be voting Republican any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Majawill and AV  &#8211; I object to Republicans being a default party that is strong on defense. That&#8217;s all. History is, of course, subject to interpretations and we can argue till cows come home who owns which disasters. </p>
<p>I have only been eligible to vote in 2004 and 2008 and I voted Democrat both times. Being from the former USSR I have seen first hand how a big country can be bankrupted by military expenditures. My concern is that Republicans are all too happy to spend billions fighting an enemy that&#8217;s probably spending 10 bucks a day or something like that. That&#8217;s the surest way to be defeated. I do not want to have another immigration in my life. Thus, I ill not be voting Republican any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To build on Laura&#039;s comment defining socialism in response to the continued desperate attempts to disparage Obama with inaccurate labels: The most socialistic candidate of the four, in fact probably the only candidate with any strain of socialism running through them at all, was Sarah Palin, whose justification for imposing a windfall tax on oil companies, and payment of $3,200 to every citizen of Alaska, was that the state, i.e. the citizens of Alaska collectively, owned the land and deserved part of the profits the oil companies made. 

But who cares about the meaning of words when we have vague, emotional partisan rhetoric?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To build on Laura&#8217;s comment defining socialism in response to the continued desperate attempts to disparage Obama with inaccurate labels: The most socialistic candidate of the four, in fact probably the only candidate with any strain of socialism running through them at all, was Sarah Palin, whose justification for imposing a windfall tax on oil companies, and payment of $3,200 to every citizen of Alaska, was that the state, i.e. the citizens of Alaska collectively, owned the land and deserved part of the profits the oil companies made. </p>
<p>But who cares about the meaning of words when we have vague, emotional partisan rhetoric?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred W. Bracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred W. Bracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Here&#039;s Looking At You, Kid&quot;

It&#039;s so laughably simple. The talk is all about where the Republicam party goes from here. The answer--one can almost never go wrong with Paris.

The middle class is shrinking. Where do Republicans think the next generation of GOP voters will come from as everyday people continue to see opportunity--to say nothing of the American dream--steadily slipping away? How prophetic that the Party of Lincoln should should have as a quote from its mentor, &quot;You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time. But you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.&quot;

So it&#039;s so long, Republicans. The party&#039;s over. Take the GOP handle with you. . .that is, if you wouldn&#039;t mind. Unfortunately, the (G) doesn&#039;t stand for &quot;grand.&quot; The (O) doesn&#039;t stand for &quot;old&quot; either, at least not as far as you&#039;re concerned. As for the (P)arties--and this is something that no one but a close family member would tell you--we grew tired of your always serving Ripple, even when you certainly could have afforded champagne.

And now. . .the plane is waiting. Please watch your step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Here&#8217;s Looking At You, Kid&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so laughably simple. The talk is all about where the Republicam party goes from here. The answer&#8211;one can almost never go wrong with Paris.</p>
<p>The middle class is shrinking. Where do Republicans think the next generation of GOP voters will come from as everyday people continue to see opportunity&#8211;to say nothing of the American dream&#8211;steadily slipping away? How prophetic that the Party of Lincoln should should have as a quote from its mentor, &#8220;You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time. But you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.&#8221;</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s so long, Republicans. The party&#8217;s over. Take the GOP handle with you. . .that is, if you wouldn&#8217;t mind. Unfortunately, the (G) doesn&#8217;t stand for &#8220;grand.&#8221; The (O) doesn&#8217;t stand for &#8220;old&#8221; either, at least not as far as you&#8217;re concerned. As for the (P)arties&#8211;and this is something that no one but a close family member would tell you&#8211;we grew tired of your always serving Ripple, even when you certainly could have afforded champagne.</p>
<p>And now. . .the plane is waiting. Please watch your step.</p>
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		<title>By: AV</title>
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		<dc:creator>AV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, one reason could be that the Democrats are associated with their last debacle - Vietnam - much strongly than the previous wars. And the first Gulf War associated with Bush Sr. was considered a &quot;success&quot; so maybe a combination of those two factors leads to the (mis)conception that the Democrats are weak on war and the Republicans strong? Just a guess and I think most voters and citizens do not peruse history and look at all the facts before coming to a conclusion. Identity politics plays a huge part in how people perceive &quot;their&quot; party.

My question would be why the Democrats are considered as peace-loving or anti-war when there&#039;s strong evidence of Clinton bombing the Al-Shifa factory as well as Iraq, continuing the sanctions on Iraq that resulted in thousands of innocent Iraqis killed, and the current Democrats in the Congress voting for the Iraq war.

When it comes to maintaining the US military-industrial complex, there&#039;s little difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, yet somehow, the Democrats are perceived as &quot;better&quot; on this issue, or peace-loving than the Republicans. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, one reason could be that the Democrats are associated with their last debacle &#8211; Vietnam &#8211; much strongly than the previous wars. And the first Gulf War associated with Bush Sr. was considered a &#8220;success&#8221; so maybe a combination of those two factors leads to the (mis)conception that the Democrats are weak on war and the Republicans strong? Just a guess and I think most voters and citizens do not peruse history and look at all the facts before coming to a conclusion. Identity politics plays a huge part in how people perceive &#8220;their&#8221; party.</p>
<p>My question would be why the Democrats are considered as peace-loving or anti-war when there&#8217;s strong evidence of Clinton bombing the Al-Shifa factory as well as Iraq, continuing the sanctions on Iraq that resulted in thousands of innocent Iraqis killed, and the current Democrats in the Congress voting for the Iraq war.</p>
<p>When it comes to maintaining the US military-industrial complex, there&#8217;s little difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, yet somehow, the Democrats are perceived as &#8220;better&#8221; on this issue, or peace-loving than the Republicans. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Majawill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Majawill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice attempt to rewrite history.
Vietnam was Kennedy&#039;s disaster, worsened by Johnson.
Korea was Johnson&#039;s disaster alone.
Carter had the hostage incident in Iran and the rescue disaster.
Clinton had disasters in Somalia, the Balkans, Haiti, Bosnia and Kosovo.  Clinton&#039;s escapade in the Balkan&#039;s was a disaster in that it brought no stability to the region, the ramifications of which would prove to be tragic.  His decision to take a pass on Bin Laden was perhaps his greatest disaster.
By your definition, Obama plans to cut and run in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice attempt to rewrite history.<br />
Vietnam was Kennedy&#8217;s disaster, worsened by Johnson.<br />
Korea was Johnson&#8217;s disaster alone.<br />
Carter had the hostage incident in Iran and the rescue disaster.<br />
Clinton had disasters in Somalia, the Balkans, Haiti, Bosnia and Kosovo.  Clinton&#8217;s escapade in the Balkan&#8217;s was a disaster in that it brought no stability to the region, the ramifications of which would prove to be tragic.  His decision to take a pass on Bin Laden was perhaps his greatest disaster.<br />
By your definition, Obama plans to cut and run in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why invade anybody? As for the military experience, there is plenty of people in the country having plenty of military experience. Obama does not have to have it. Neither Bush nor Clinton had any. Nor Lincoln or FDR. Reading books on American history, I am decidely not impressed by the performance of Republican presidents in this area. Military spending - maybe. But otherwise, the first gulf war and Grenada are the only two examples from the last 100 years that come to mind. Cutting and running from Korea, Vietnam and Lebanon is also their achievement. Dems were actually the ones leading the country through WWI and WWII. A democrat was the only president in history making a decision to use nuclear wheapons. Bay of Pigs was dems, but also Cuban missile crisis. Clinton&#039;s Balkan adventure was successful with virtually no loss of American servicemen, while Bush&#039;s Iraq adventure is a disaster. So as an immigrant in this Country reading history I am a little at a loss as to why Republicans are considered strong on defense, while Dems are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why invade anybody? As for the military experience, there is plenty of people in the country having plenty of military experience. Obama does not have to have it. Neither Bush nor Clinton had any. Nor Lincoln or FDR. Reading books on American history, I am decidely not impressed by the performance of Republican presidents in this area. Military spending &#8211; maybe. But otherwise, the first gulf war and Grenada are the only two examples from the last 100 years that come to mind. Cutting and running from Korea, Vietnam and Lebanon is also their achievement. Dems were actually the ones leading the country through WWI and WWII. A democrat was the only president in history making a decision to use nuclear wheapons. Bay of Pigs was dems, but also Cuban missile crisis. Clinton&#8217;s Balkan adventure was successful with virtually no loss of American servicemen, while Bush&#8217;s Iraq adventure is a disaster. So as an immigrant in this Country reading history I am a little at a loss as to why Republicans are considered strong on defense, while Dems are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dictionary definition of socialism, from Merriam-Webster:

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

I think what critics are thinking of when they call Obama&#039;s policies socialist is actually nationalization, &quot; 2  : to invest control or ownership of in the national government.&quot;


Words have meanings, folks. Use them correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dictionary definition of socialism, from Merriam-Webster:</p>
<p>1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state</p>
<p>I think what critics are thinking of when they call Obama&#8217;s policies socialist is actually nationalization, &#8221; 2  : to invest control or ownership of in the national government.&#8221;</p>
<p>Words have meanings, folks. Use them correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Alrich Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/future-of-gop/comment-page-1#comment-5696</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Alrich Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Entitlement, to the prerogatives of power, and the spoils thereof, was and may still be the flaw of the Republican mind. Feeling the right to dictate moral coda and to concentrate wealth in fewer hands, there was and must be a righteous &quot;us&quot;, and a flawed, perhaps evil, &quot;them&quot;. Having already split the world into friends and enemies, they could speak softly to their friends the truth, and they could lie and distort facts and ideas to anyone else, as needed, to acquire the power to which they were, after all, entitled. And which they needed to effect their agenda. In a consummate irony, their vision to destroy government was so effectively implemented that they laid the ground work for a complete repudiation.

Who tells us we do not need government? How, without laws, and without placing the police power in the hands of some accountable agency, do we guarantee that greed, sadism and deceit shall not operate in human affairs? How, without an institution that is accountable to and guided by the people, can we fairly, democratically, set the minimum standards of good citizenship, and enforce them? How, without an incarnation of the community, its institutional memory, and its sole possession of the police power, are we to negotiate the terms of life in society, except by violence and fear?  There are yet places in the world without government, and these are dangerous places that armies avoid.

The Democrats, the Independents, and the apatheticists failed also, having no vision and no story to counter the narcissism of the Right. Democrats and Activists also failed when they lashed out at Republicans, in spiteful words. Hate radio has been baiting us for years and we needed to vent, but hate only feeds hate, so let us hope we cool off and apologize. Democrats, feeling repudiated by Ronald Reagan&#039;s call for personal responsibility, and cowed by the ridicule heaped on the epithet &quot;liberal&quot;, have failed to reclaim the vision of an effective government, as a necessary fulfillment of the vision to &quot;... form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessing of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity...&quot; (preamble, US Constitution), not in denial of personal responsibility, but as a complement to it. The Democrats, like the Republicans, failed to see the validity and necessity of the vision of their ideological opponents.

The deeper philosophical error was and is to believe that one political and economic philosophy and can guide a nation and its policies. The Republican dogma of personal responsibility, keeping the government out of personal business, and minimized cost of operation, is valid only if seen in contrast with and balanced against a progressive philosophy that reminds us that we cannot live alone, without sharing our streets, homes, businesses, banks, fates, and the Earth, that we have common interests, that the well being of individuals is an inherent interest of the community, and that the government is where communities make their decisions. Likewise, the Progressive dogma that government can be a force for good is only valid when countered by the conservative abhorrence of dependence and interference. The core truth, forgotten by polemicists, is that all views are needed to find the pragmatic middle, and that no one view is sufficient for a complete vision.

We need a new vision of contest in American Politics, in which the opponent is a representative of a different way of seeing the world and our common business, whom we can question and probe for deeper understanding, and which we ourselves need, to get the policy and the philosophy right.

These writings are the sole possession of Stephen Alrich Marshall and shall not be used without attribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entitlement, to the prerogatives of power, and the spoils thereof, was and may still be the flaw of the Republican mind. Feeling the right to dictate moral coda and to concentrate wealth in fewer hands, there was and must be a righteous &#8220;us&#8221;, and a flawed, perhaps evil, &#8220;them&#8221;. Having already split the world into friends and enemies, they could speak softly to their friends the truth, and they could lie and distort facts and ideas to anyone else, as needed, to acquire the power to which they were, after all, entitled. And which they needed to effect their agenda. In a consummate irony, their vision to destroy government was so effectively implemented that they laid the ground work for a complete repudiation.</p>
<p>Who tells us we do not need government? How, without laws, and without placing the police power in the hands of some accountable agency, do we guarantee that greed, sadism and deceit shall not operate in human affairs? How, without an institution that is accountable to and guided by the people, can we fairly, democratically, set the minimum standards of good citizenship, and enforce them? How, without an incarnation of the community, its institutional memory, and its sole possession of the police power, are we to negotiate the terms of life in society, except by violence and fear?  There are yet places in the world without government, and these are dangerous places that armies avoid.</p>
<p>The Democrats, the Independents, and the apatheticists failed also, having no vision and no story to counter the narcissism of the Right. Democrats and Activists also failed when they lashed out at Republicans, in spiteful words. Hate radio has been baiting us for years and we needed to vent, but hate only feeds hate, so let us hope we cool off and apologize. Democrats, feeling repudiated by Ronald Reagan&#8217;s call for personal responsibility, and cowed by the ridicule heaped on the epithet &#8220;liberal&#8221;, have failed to reclaim the vision of an effective government, as a necessary fulfillment of the vision to &#8220;&#8230; form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessing of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity&#8230;&#8221; (preamble, US Constitution), not in denial of personal responsibility, but as a complement to it. The Democrats, like the Republicans, failed to see the validity and necessity of the vision of their ideological opponents.</p>
<p>The deeper philosophical error was and is to believe that one political and economic philosophy and can guide a nation and its policies. The Republican dogma of personal responsibility, keeping the government out of personal business, and minimized cost of operation, is valid only if seen in contrast with and balanced against a progressive philosophy that reminds us that we cannot live alone, without sharing our streets, homes, businesses, banks, fates, and the Earth, that we have common interests, that the well being of individuals is an inherent interest of the community, and that the government is where communities make their decisions. Likewise, the Progressive dogma that government can be a force for good is only valid when countered by the conservative abhorrence of dependence and interference. The core truth, forgotten by polemicists, is that all views are needed to find the pragmatic middle, and that no one view is sufficient for a complete vision.</p>
<p>We need a new vision of contest in American Politics, in which the opponent is a representative of a different way of seeing the world and our common business, whom we can question and probe for deeper understanding, and which we ourselves need, to get the policy and the philosophy right.</p>
<p>These writings are the sole possession of Stephen Alrich Marshall and shall not be used without attribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Levinson</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/future-of-gop/comment-page-1#comment-5693</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Levinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL ... good one, Maj.</description>
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		<title>By: Majawill</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/future-of-gop/comment-page-1#comment-5692</link>
		<dc:creator>Majawill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re talking domestic.  Remember, Obama&#039;s got no foreign policy experience.  So I guess we invade Vermont, hope there&#039;s snow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re talking domestic.  Remember, Obama&#8217;s got no foreign policy experience.  So I guess we invade Vermont, hope there&#8217;s snow.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Levinson</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/future-of-gop/comment-page-1#comment-5690</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Levinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you&#039;re talkin&#039;, Majawill.  Let&#039;s pull out of Afghanistan immediately and invade Sweden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you&#8217;re talkin&#8217;, Majawill.  Let&#8217;s pull out of Afghanistan immediately and invade Sweden.</p>
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		<title>By: Majawill</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/future-of-gop/comment-page-1#comment-5686</link>
		<dc:creator>Majawill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m for more straight-talk.  Call a wealth distributor a socialist and point out the failings of the opposition.  

Terrorist to socialist, I actually think that&#039;s a demotion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m for more straight-talk.  Call a wealth distributor a socialist and point out the failings of the opposition.  </p>
<p>Terrorist to socialist, I actually think that&#8217;s a demotion.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/future-of-gop/comment-page-1#comment-5685</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about not getting the point! This isn&#039;t about the Republican party needing to be &quot;relevant&quot; to today&#039;s America. The Democratic party isn&#039;t any more &quot;relevant&quot;. What does it mean to be Republican or Democrat anymore? Republicans are anti-abortion and want to give wealth to the wealthy. Democrats are pro-choice and want to give wealth to the poor. That about sums up the differences. Both are for large government, more taxes, government intervention, imperialism, and war! If the Republicans moved back to resemble the party that Ron Paul insists left him behind, they&#039;d find their situation much more palatable. It&#039;s the fact that the Republican party has come to be dominated by Neo-Cons, pandering to the religious fanatics of our country that has hurt them so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about not getting the point! This isn&#8217;t about the Republican party needing to be &#8220;relevant&#8221; to today&#8217;s America. The Democratic party isn&#8217;t any more &#8220;relevant&#8221;. What does it mean to be Republican or Democrat anymore? Republicans are anti-abortion and want to give wealth to the wealthy. Democrats are pro-choice and want to give wealth to the poor. That about sums up the differences. Both are for large government, more taxes, government intervention, imperialism, and war! If the Republicans moved back to resemble the party that Ron Paul insists left him behind, they&#8217;d find their situation much more palatable. It&#8217;s the fact that the Republican party has come to be dominated by Neo-Cons, pandering to the religious fanatics of our country that has hurt them so much!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Levinson</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/future-of-gop/comment-page-1#comment-5669</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Levinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama has pointed out many times that political campaigns are not for the faint hearted. But ... listen to what Tom&#039;s caller said ... even Republicans are tired of their party&#039;s name calling and fear mongering  In fairness, however, I thought it was really good of McCain and Palin to promote Barack Obama from Terrorist to Socialist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama has pointed out many times that political campaigns are not for the faint hearted. But &#8230; listen to what Tom&#8217;s caller said &#8230; even Republicans are tired of their party&#8217;s name calling and fear mongering  In fairness, however, I thought it was really good of McCain and Palin to promote Barack Obama from Terrorist to Socialist.</p>
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		<title>By: Majawill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Majawill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polarizing, fear-mongering diatribes; sounds like both sides in the election campaign we just went through.</description>
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		<title>By: Larry Levinson</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/11/future-of-gop/comment-page-1#comment-5664</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Levinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger Hedgecock personifies why people are fleeing the Republican party in droves. When Tom asked Hedgecock how he would win back a disaffected Republican caller who used to appreciate the Republican approach to freedom, his response was &quot;you&#039;re gonna find that you&#039;re gonna have a lot less economic freedom under Obama.&quot;

Well there you have it.  His answer to a direct, fair question was based in &quot;you&#039;re-gonna-be-sorry-you-made-Tuesday&#039;s-decision&quot; fear tactics. Of course, he offered no direct response to the caller&#039;s concern.

We&#039;ve all had enough of polarizing, fear-mongering diatribes.  Enough already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger Hedgecock personifies why people are fleeing the Republican party in droves. When Tom asked Hedgecock how he would win back a disaffected Republican caller who used to appreciate the Republican approach to freedom, his response was &#8220;you&#8217;re gonna find that you&#8217;re gonna have a lot less economic freedom under Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well there you have it.  His answer to a direct, fair question was based in &#8220;you&#8217;re-gonna-be-sorry-you-made-Tuesday&#8217;s-decision&#8221; fear tactics. Of course, he offered no direct response to the caller&#8217;s concern.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all had enough of polarizing, fear-mongering diatribes.  Enough already.</p>
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