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		<title>By: Joe B.</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-8427</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding program. It was very thought provoking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding program. It was very thought provoking.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-8064</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, so Gov Huckabee is against gay marriage, but for &quot;rights&quot;.  But as soon as he&#039;s asked about civil unions, he says that we&#039;d use that to try to get marriage out of it.  So there&#039;s the slippery slope argument.  Hypocrite.

Funny is that the truth is the reverse.  We were asking for civil unions a long time ago and would have been extremely happy if we had won with that.  Now we&#039;ve &quot;grown up&quot; and want the real deal.  Gays and lesbians owe a debt of gratitude to the Right:  if they hadn&#039;t denied us even basic civil unions in the past, we wouldn&#039;t appreciate how important it is today.  The conversation has changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, so Gov Huckabee is against gay marriage, but for &#8220;rights&#8221;.  But as soon as he&#8217;s asked about civil unions, he says that we&#8217;d use that to try to get marriage out of it.  So there&#8217;s the slippery slope argument.  Hypocrite.</p>
<p>Funny is that the truth is the reverse.  We were asking for civil unions a long time ago and would have been extremely happy if we had won with that.  Now we&#8217;ve &#8220;grown up&#8221; and want the real deal.  Gays and lesbians owe a debt of gratitude to the Right:  if they hadn&#8217;t denied us even basic civil unions in the past, we wouldn&#8217;t appreciate how important it is today.  The conversation has changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Denver</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-7937</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve in Denver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Huckabee rubs me wrong in so many ways.  He&#039;s a poor loser, confrontational, and overly promotional.  His campaign was laughable and the GOP will be much better off if he stays far away from national politics in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Huckabee rubs me wrong in so many ways.  He&#8217;s a poor loser, confrontational, and overly promotional.  His campaign was laughable and the GOP will be much better off if he stays far away from national politics in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: TeacherThom</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-7832</link>
		<dc:creator>TeacherThom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My partner and I, being from Massachusetts, will be undertaking the marriage we&#039;ve been dreaming about for years.  It&#039;s going to be a small ceremony, with a simple, elegant meal, and a Justice of the Peace presiding.

We&#039;re not only doing this out of love for each other.  We&#039;re also doing it because here, in MA, we&#039;re allowed and afforded the same rights as married heterosexual couples.  We&#039;re fortunate to live among people who feel that this is the right way to be, and who understand that Equal Rights for All means Just That.  Equal Rights for ALL.  Mr. Huckabee, in his wisdom, sees my partner and I as not deserving of the same recognition that happens when our heterosexual friends are married.  It is because of this fact, and the fact that he purports himself to be the voice of reason in the Republican party, that I will never, never respect him fully.  He can&#039;t afford me the respect I deserve, the feeling will have to be mutual.  I was enraged, disgusted, and felt personally attacked while listening to him, and next week, when I slip that ring on my partner&#039;s finger, in front of the State, and in front of our family, I know that at least here, and now, at this moment, I am on par with my hetero neighbors.  Will this right be taken away?  Only if people who feel the same as Mr. Huckabee take control of government and feel they are justified in mandating who counts and who doesn&#039;t in our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My partner and I, being from Massachusetts, will be undertaking the marriage we&#8217;ve been dreaming about for years.  It&#8217;s going to be a small ceremony, with a simple, elegant meal, and a Justice of the Peace presiding.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not only doing this out of love for each other.  We&#8217;re also doing it because here, in MA, we&#8217;re allowed and afforded the same rights as married heterosexual couples.  We&#8217;re fortunate to live among people who feel that this is the right way to be, and who understand that Equal Rights for All means Just That.  Equal Rights for ALL.  Mr. Huckabee, in his wisdom, sees my partner and I as not deserving of the same recognition that happens when our heterosexual friends are married.  It is because of this fact, and the fact that he purports himself to be the voice of reason in the Republican party, that I will never, never respect him fully.  He can&#8217;t afford me the respect I deserve, the feeling will have to be mutual.  I was enraged, disgusted, and felt personally attacked while listening to him, and next week, when I slip that ring on my partner&#8217;s finger, in front of the State, and in front of our family, I know that at least here, and now, at this moment, I am on par with my hetero neighbors.  Will this right be taken away?  Only if people who feel the same as Mr. Huckabee take control of government and feel they are justified in mandating who counts and who doesn&#8217;t in our society.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-7710</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, many of the conservative radio commentators (eg, Rush and Laura Ingarham)  rallied for Romney very, very, late in the game after Fred Thompson was toast.

I was referring more to the MSM types throughout the entire campaign.  Almost, everyone on MSNBC villified Romney from the start of his campaign until the day he dropped out.  Even Fox News reporters (not commentators) were reporting Romney as a &#039;flip-flopper&#039;.

I didn&#039;t see the same treatment of Obama&#039;s &#039;evolution&#039; of positions from primary to general election.  He seems as though he adopted every one of Hillary&#039;s positions after he defeated her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, many of the conservative radio commentators (eg, Rush and Laura Ingarham)  rallied for Romney very, very, late in the game after Fred Thompson was toast.</p>
<p>I was referring more to the MSM types throughout the entire campaign.  Almost, everyone on MSNBC villified Romney from the start of his campaign until the day he dropped out.  Even Fox News reporters (not commentators) were reporting Romney as a &#8216;flip-flopper&#8217;.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see the same treatment of Obama&#8217;s &#8216;evolution&#8217; of positions from primary to general election.  He seems as though he adopted every one of Hillary&#8217;s positions after he defeated her.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-7615</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike you obviously don&#039;t follow the conservative media, most of which lionized Romney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike you obviously don&#8217;t follow the conservative media, most of which lionized Romney.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huckabee claims the media gave Romney a pass.  What a joke.  Many reporters were parroting Huckabee&#039;s postition that Romney was a flip flopper.  Huckabee was also fomenting an anti-Mormon position.

Huckabee is a skilled politition and orator but he is no good for the GOP. Let&#039;s hope he&#039;s had his 15 minutes.

btw- his show on Fox is unwatchable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huckabee claims the media gave Romney a pass.  What a joke.  Many reporters were parroting Huckabee&#8217;s postition that Romney was a flip flopper.  Huckabee was also fomenting an anti-Mormon position.</p>
<p>Huckabee is a skilled politition and orator but he is no good for the GOP. Let&#8217;s hope he&#8217;s had his 15 minutes.</p>
<p>btw- his show on Fox is unwatchable.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s one reason Huckabee isn&#039;t liked by the GOP hardcore he was the spoiler against Romney. I personally think  that there never was strong voter support behind Romney and that if Huckabee hadn&#039;t done it someone else would have but still there&#039;s a lot of salt in the wound. Just ask Kathleen Parker who didn&#039;t think the GOP had a god problem when Romney the only candidate who was doing so was decrying &#039;secularism&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one reason Huckabee isn&#8217;t liked by the GOP hardcore he was the spoiler against Romney. I personally think  that there never was strong voter support behind Romney and that if Huckabee hadn&#8217;t done it someone else would have but still there&#8217;s a lot of salt in the wound. Just ask Kathleen Parker who didn&#8217;t think the GOP had a god problem when Romney the only candidate who was doing so was decrying &#8217;secularism&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-7518</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the way home tonight, I heard part of this re-broadcast.  I&#039;m afaid an important point is being missed.  &quot;Conservative talk radio&quot; is becoming more and more &quot;Republican Party hate radio.&quot;  This was very evident in the 2008 President campaign.  Conservative Republican columnist who did not tow the line with the ulta-right wing were &quot;fatwad&#039;ed.&quot;  Look at this pitiful example of hate made by a Republican member of the US Congress....

Lawmaker sorry about Obama slam 
By Julia Malone 
Cox Washington Bureau 
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 
Washington —- U.S. Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia backed away Tuesday from comparing the policies of President-elect Barack Obama to those of Hitler or a Marxist dictator.

That&#039;s hate generated rhetoric.  That&#039;s not political speech.  That&#039;s the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the way home tonight, I heard part of this re-broadcast.  I&#8217;m afaid an important point is being missed.  &#8220;Conservative talk radio&#8221; is becoming more and more &#8220;Republican Party hate radio.&#8221;  This was very evident in the 2008 President campaign.  Conservative Republican columnist who did not tow the line with the ulta-right wing were &#8220;fatwad&#8217;ed.&#8221;  Look at this pitiful example of hate made by a Republican member of the US Congress&#8230;.</p>
<p>Lawmaker sorry about Obama slam<br />
By Julia Malone<br />
Cox Washington Bureau<br />
Wednesday, November 12, 2008<br />
Washington —- U.S. Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia backed away Tuesday from comparing the policies of President-elect Barack Obama to those of Hitler or a Marxist dictator.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s hate generated rhetoric.  That&#8217;s not political speech.  That&#8217;s the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiger</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-7512</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between the &quot;death sentence&quot; and abortion is that the child is innocent until proven guilty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between the &#8220;death sentence&#8221; and abortion is that the child is innocent until proven guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: Don A.</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-7493</link>
		<dc:creator>Don A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relative to gay marriage:  What is the difference between gays living together and a parent and a child or even two roommates living together.  Most people would say that the main difference is unnatural sex acts.  Then why can&#039;t a mother and daughter living together receive the benefits of being married?  I have no objection of ANY two people contracting to receive the rights of visiting the other in the hospital, inheriting estates, etc.  These are contracts between the two people involved.  However, when in comes to such things as Social Security benefits, or insurance benefits, or joint tax returns, etc, these involve everyone in the society.  Social Security taxes or insurance costs or income taxes will go up for everyone to pay for the extra benefits.  I can not go along with this for ANY of these groups including gays.  Allow a single civil union contract for things that only affect the two people but leave marriages to only two people of the opposite sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relative to gay marriage:  What is the difference between gays living together and a parent and a child or even two roommates living together.  Most people would say that the main difference is unnatural sex acts.  Then why can&#8217;t a mother and daughter living together receive the benefits of being married?  I have no objection of ANY two people contracting to receive the rights of visiting the other in the hospital, inheriting estates, etc.  These are contracts between the two people involved.  However, when in comes to such things as Social Security benefits, or insurance benefits, or joint tax returns, etc, these involve everyone in the society.  Social Security taxes or insurance costs or income taxes will go up for everyone to pay for the extra benefits.  I can not go along with this for ANY of these groups including gays.  Allow a single civil union contract for things that only affect the two people but leave marriages to only two people of the opposite sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-7491</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who was it who just said that America is still a &quot;center-right&quot; nation? Was that Huckabee? Still pushing that foolish conservative talking point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who was it who just said that America is still a &#8220;center-right&#8221; nation? Was that Huckabee? Still pushing that foolish conservative talking point.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-7492</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (commonly known as the Mormons), I was apalled at the gross intentional mischaracterization of my religion by Republican candidates and their surrogates in the media and on the internet.  For the first time in my life I was unable to support the Republican presidential candidate when I stepped into the voting booth.  Does Mr. Huckabee believe the Republican party owes members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints an apology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (commonly known as the Mormons), I was apalled at the gross intentional mischaracterization of my religion by Republican candidates and their surrogates in the media and on the internet.  For the first time in my life I was unable to support the Republican presidential candidate when I stepped into the voting booth.  Does Mr. Huckabee believe the Republican party owes members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints an apology?</p>
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		<title>By: Carolann Najarian</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-7490</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolann Najarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gov. Huckabee sounds good -- he says the right things on some issues and thus appeals to a lot of us.  Who afterall is against security, smaller government, lower taxes, and family values?  However, where does he stand on science? global warming? stem cell research? Is he for &#039;intelligent design&#039; and creationism to be taught in the schools alongside evolution?  This is in the fine print.  I would have liked to hear his position from him directly on these issues.  

Carolann Najarian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gov. Huckabee sounds good &#8212; he says the right things on some issues and thus appeals to a lot of us.  Who afterall is against security, smaller government, lower taxes, and family values?  However, where does he stand on science? global warming? stem cell research? Is he for &#8216;intelligent design&#8217; and creationism to be taught in the schools alongside evolution?  This is in the fine print.  I would have liked to hear his position from him directly on these issues.  </p>
<p>Carolann Najarian</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huckabee is being disingenuous in saying that he supports civil unions but that the problem is once gays get *those* rights they then get bold and demand marriage. The problem is that MARRIAGE is a nationally recognized status and CIVIL UNION is not. Many states have passed civil union laws but by no means do they recognize the rights of a couple uniformly... and more importantly MR. HUCKABEE the federal government does not mandate that states recognize those rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huckabee is being disingenuous in saying that he supports civil unions but that the problem is once gays get *those* rights they then get bold and demand marriage. The problem is that MARRIAGE is a nationally recognized status and CIVIL UNION is not. Many states have passed civil union laws but by no means do they recognize the rights of a couple uniformly&#8230; and more importantly MR. HUCKABEE the federal government does not mandate that states recognize those rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Lemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Lemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was nice to hear that Governor Huckabee thinks an 80-year-old woman has as many rights as a fetus, but what about the fetus&#039; mother?  Does he believe the fetus has the right to live if its life destroys hers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was nice to hear that Governor Huckabee thinks an 80-year-old woman has as many rights as a fetus, but what about the fetus&#8217; mother?  Does he believe the fetus has the right to live if its life destroys hers?</p>
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		<title>By: molly hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>molly hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Mr Huckabee&#039;s right-to-life stance apply to capital punishment? Where does he stand on this issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Mr Huckabee&#8217;s right-to-life stance apply to capital punishment? Where does he stand on this issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Synnott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy Synnott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always had this question for Republicans... If every life is important, how can the death penatly be ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always had this question for Republicans&#8230; If every life is important, how can the death penatly be ok?</p>
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		<title>By: ken bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am listening to Mr. Huckabee, who I highly admire. I am a Christian who is opposed to abortion on a personal level, but am pro-choice, independant politically.  It seems to me that for many conservatives they believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth. If they want to speak out in defense of life they should do something tangible to support single mothers and to make adoption easier and less expensive. currently, it seems that the abortion issue is used devisively and hypocritically by politicians to drive a wedge through society. Let&#039;s move on from the culture wars and do something constructive about the huge social problems of children born to single women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am listening to Mr. Huckabee, who I highly admire. I am a Christian who is opposed to abortion on a personal level, but am pro-choice, independant politically.  It seems to me that for many conservatives they believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth. If they want to speak out in defense of life they should do something tangible to support single mothers and to make adoption easier and less expensive. currently, it seems that the abortion issue is used devisively and hypocritically by politicians to drive a wedge through society. Let&#8217;s move on from the culture wars and do something constructive about the huge social problems of children born to single women.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Butler</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2008/12/huckabee-on-the-gop/comment-page-1#comment-7482</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It occurs to me as I listen that I am tired of hearing the phrase &quot;people of faith&quot; used in such a way that it equals Christians, conservative or not, and seemingly excludes many, many, many people who have a faith of some sort and would prefer to be recognized as such without being in any way attached to anything remotely Christian, conservative or not.  I hope that Mr. Huckabee and others will take note of this in the future and realize they DO NOT have the franchise on faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It occurs to me as I listen that I am tired of hearing the phrase &#8220;people of faith&#8221; used in such a way that it equals Christians, conservative or not, and seemingly excludes many, many, many people who have a faith of some sort and would prefer to be recognized as such without being in any way attached to anything remotely Christian, conservative or not.  I hope that Mr. Huckabee and others will take note of this in the future and realize they DO NOT have the franchise on faith.</p>
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