Comments on: The Art of Mashups http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups On Point is a live, two-hour morning news-analysis program, produced by WBUR 90.9 and NPR. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:26:29 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Todd Bartel http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10746 Todd Bartel Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:30:33 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10746 As the remixed words of Barack Obama crop up over and over again. Clearly, mixing and mashing it up—figuring out how it all “can work together” is a widely expressed imperative today. As the remixed words of Barack Obama crop up over and over again. Clearly, mixing and mashing it up—figuring out how it all “can work together” is a widely expressed imperative today.

]]> By: Todd Bartel http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10745 Todd Bartel Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:25:56 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10745 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqwehqcdyOw&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqwehqcdyOw&NR=1

]]> By: Jake DiMare http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10738 Jake DiMare Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:25:56 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10738 I heard this exact topic on a talk radio show for the first time while driving from San Francisco to Boston. It was March of 2004 and the radio show was out of either Reno or Sacramento. I remember listening to the host talk about the Danger Mouse piece and thinking about how beautiful central California is at sunset. Great piece. -Jake I heard this exact topic on a talk radio show for the first time while driving from San Francisco to Boston. It was March of 2004 and the radio show was out of either Reno or Sacramento. I remember listening to the host talk about the Danger Mouse piece and thinking about how beautiful central California is at sunset.

Great piece.

-Jake

]]> By: Jon Malone http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10705 Jon Malone Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:32:42 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10705 Obama inauguration speech Remixed? Music is both created by and listened to with the mind, body, and soul. Some people dance and feel it more with their body, others sit and listen from a cerebral approach. Some like the feel of 4/4 and others like the swing of 3/4. It is all personal and shouldn't be bashed. Some artists write because the music it "sounds good," and others write because it mathematically makes sense with that chord progression. I can only imagine what the likes of Mozart, Stravinsky, or Brahms would be doing with the technology of today. In the end, mash-up/remixing is fun and if you don't like it, change the channel to something you enjoy and connect with. From what I read above and have listened to on the streets, there is a difference between critiquing and complaining. Complaining is ugly. Check out Obama's inaugural address remixed. www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkKWGndXhAA Obama inauguration speech Remixed?

Music is both created by and listened to with the mind, body, and soul. Some people dance and feel it more with their body, others sit and listen from a cerebral approach. Some like the feel of 4/4 and others like the swing of 3/4. It is all personal and shouldn’t be bashed. Some artists write because the music it “sounds good,” and others write because it mathematically makes sense with that chord progression.

I can only imagine what the likes of Mozart, Stravinsky, or Brahms would be doing with the technology of today.

In the end, mash-up/remixing is fun and if you don’t like it, change the channel to something you enjoy and connect with. From what I read above and have listened to on the streets, there is a difference between critiquing and complaining.

Complaining is ugly.

Check out Obama’s inaugural address remixed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkKWGndXhAA

]]> By: Yipyop http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10680 Yipyop Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:35:29 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10680 [...] his own music and sound installations. To mark the milestone Jon was interviewed on NPR’s On Point. Posted in Uncategorized at February 9th, 2009. Trackback URI: [...] [...] his own music and sound installations. To mark the milestone Jon was interviewed on NPR’s On Point. Posted in Uncategorized at February 9th, 2009. Trackback URI: [...]

]]> By: Todd Bartel http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10671 Todd Bartel Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:21:34 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10671 P.S. If you are interested I just tried my own first mash-up, after 30 years of playing piano I discovered the program "GarageBand" which is a great "Mash-up" head start software. Here is a link to my first fruit. (It's an amalgam of digital instruments that I played, edited and canned rhythms, and some captured vocals): http://www.archive.org/details/SeveralBigChanges_917 P.S.

If you are interested I just tried my own first mash-up, after 30 years of playing piano I discovered the program “GarageBand” which is a great “Mash-up” head start software. Here is a link to my first fruit. (It’s an amalgam of digital instruments that I played, edited and canned rhythms, and some captured vocals):

http://www.archive.org/details/SeveralBigChanges_917

]]> By: Todd Bartel http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10670 Todd Bartel Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:15:40 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10670 To Isernia et al. “To each is own” is fair enough. You ask, "Does this involve any more creativity...?" Certainly! Have you ever tried to make a sound-scape, a collage, an assemblage? Have you ever curated an exhibition or a collection? Such stuff is not at all an easy task. Collages, assemblages and mash-ups are all simple enough to make in theory—they simply require a collection of components that work well together. But to make them alluring, poetic, potent, powerful, or memorable, now that is yet another labor of love. Stick with the “to each is own argument” unless you have the experience to dignify the other complaint. Respectfully, Todd Bartel [a.k.a. Necto] To Isernia et al.

“To each is own” is fair enough. You ask, “Does this involve any more creativity…?” Certainly! Have you ever tried to make a sound-scape, a collage, an assemblage? Have you ever curated an exhibition or a collection? Such stuff is not at all an easy task. Collages, assemblages and mash-ups are all simple enough to make in theory—they simply require a collection of components that work well together. But to make them alluring, poetic, potent, powerful, or memorable, now that is yet another labor of love. Stick with the “to each is own argument” unless you have the experience to dignify the other complaint.

Respectfully,

Todd Bartel
[a.k.a. Necto]

]]> By: andy uk http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10639 andy uk Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:29:20 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10639 Another great show. It was cool to hear Tom get enthused by the concept and the great tunes. I guess he was maybe not a fan before but hearing him realise the possibilities and ‘get’ what mixing it up is all about put a right smile on my face. One early and fine example of the ‘paradigm’ is KLF’s chillout album, you get Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac, Elvis and much more. Plays homage to the music of these people and weaves a very relaxed dreamy world of sounds. We used to listen to it here in the UK after dancing in a muddy filed or warehouse for 20 hours in the late eighties. Goes nice with a cup of tea and bacon sandwich :) Another great show. It was cool to hear Tom get enthused by the concept and the great tunes. I guess he was maybe not a fan before but hearing him realise the possibilities and ‘get’ what mixing it up is all about put a right smile on my face.

One early and fine example of the ‘paradigm’ is KLF’s chillout album, you get Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac, Elvis and much more. Plays homage to the music of these people and weaves a very relaxed dreamy world of sounds. We used to listen to it here in the UK after dancing in a muddy filed or warehouse for 20 hours in the late eighties. Goes nice with a cup of tea and bacon sandwich :)

]]> By: djd http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10638 djd Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:59:18 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10638 Girl Talk is the musical equivalent of Shepard Fairey. They are not artists, they are entrepreneurs. Mash ups a horrid. Girl Talk is the musical equivalent of Shepard Fairey. They are not artists, they are entrepreneurs. Mash ups a horrid.

]]> By: Christine W. http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10632 Christine W. Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:24:31 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10632 Thanks SO MUCH to Irsenia and Charlie Mc. This stuff is just LARCENY by people with no personal musicality, or, if they have some remnant of it, no humility about stealing other people's physical expression of musicality. This is just sound created out of ambition for purposes of fame. People worldwide make music using found materials, but the musician finds and makes the rhythms, melodies, etc. These guys just steal someone else's music. If you want to make music out of found materials, don't make it using stolen music; make music using non-musical sounds. Actually, that's an old idea, but if you want to make it new, try it -- but don't steal! Thanks SO MUCH to Irsenia and Charlie Mc. This stuff is just LARCENY by people with no personal musicality, or, if they have some remnant of it, no humility about stealing other people’s physical expression of musicality. This is just sound created out of ambition for purposes of fame. People worldwide make music using found materials, but the musician finds and makes the rhythms, melodies, etc. These guys just steal someone else’s music. If you want to make music out of found materials, don’t make it using stolen music; make music using non-musical sounds. Actually, that’s an old idea, but if you want to make it new, try it — but don’t steal!

]]> By: Charlie Mc http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10603 Charlie Mc Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:48:36 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10603 In 1946, at the Boston's basketball Tech Tourney, the Somerville High School student fans came up with a first, a cheer which went: "A-B-C-D-E-F-G; H-I-J-K-L-M-N-O-P; Q-R-S-O-M-E-R; V-I-L-L-E Rah, Rah!" Thus began the modern era of organized cheers. It was just as novel as MASH, and just as peripheral to sports as Mash is to real music. It will probably last just as well. Unfortunately. In 1946, at the Boston’s basketball Tech Tourney, the Somerville High School student fans came up with a first, a cheer which went:
“A-B-C-D-E-F-G;
H-I-J-K-L-M-N-O-P;
Q-R-S-O-M-E-R;
V-I-L-L-E Rah, Rah!”
Thus began the modern era of organized cheers. It was just as novel as MASH, and just as peripheral to sports as Mash is to real music. It will probably last just as well. Unfortunately.

]]> By: Isernia http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10601 Isernia Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:18:14 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10601 What ever happened to the classical music segments that were so common under the previous ON POINT host? All public television stations try to appeal to a younger audience than us over 70 yr. old senior listeners, so such programming is understandable. However, might we who enjoy more traditional forms of music, not ask for "equal time"? Once a high school senior student of mine declared that his future career dream was to be a DJ. When I asked why, he responded self-confidently that his musical tastes were the greatest. Reminds me of the mashmasters on this program. Is it not the height of narcissism and egotism to think that one's artistry is to select musical and verbal sounds that others will spend precious time to listen to? Does this involve any more creativity than I just expressed choosing dirty clothes from my hamper to put in the washing machiine? What ever happened to the classical music segments that were so common under the previous ON POINT host? All public television stations try to appeal to a younger audience than us over 70 yr. old senior listeners, so such programming is understandable. However, might we who enjoy more traditional forms of music, not ask for “equal time”?
Once a high school senior student of mine declared that his future career dream was to be a DJ. When I asked why, he responded self-confidently that his musical tastes were the greatest. Reminds me of the mashmasters on this program. Is it not the height of narcissism and egotism to think that one’s artistry is to select musical and verbal sounds that others will spend precious time to listen to? Does this involve any more creativity than I just expressed choosing dirty clothes from my hamper to put in the washing machiine?

]]> By: Richard http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10589 Richard Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:12:06 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10589 Great show. The copyright issues are articulated quite well by Larry Lessig who I recommend having on this show at some point: http://www.lessig.org/ He came up with the creative commons license and other new ways of dealing with owning and sharing digital information. Great show. The copyright issues are articulated quite well by Larry Lessig who I recommend having on this show at some point:

http://www.lessig.org/

He came up with the creative commons license and other new ways of dealing with owning and sharing digital information.

]]> By: jeffe http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10587 jeffe Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:13:05 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10587 I'm with Cris, this stuff makes my head hurt. Each to there own though... I’m with Cris, this stuff makes my head hurt.
Each to there own though…

]]> By: jaronstein http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10575 jaronstein Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:05:31 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10575 Great show Tom! Great show Tom!

]]> By: Chris http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10574 Chris Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:00:32 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10574 No Thanks. Mash ups generally sounds like a trainwreck full of complete mental overload. Give me Miles Davis and a clean, free mind any day. No Thanks. Mash ups generally sounds like a trainwreck full of complete mental overload. Give me Miles Davis and a clean, free mind any day.

]]> By: Cody Blair http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10572 Cody Blair Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:55:50 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10572 www.djztrip.com/obama http://www.djztrip.com/obama

]]> By: Wen Stephenson http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10571 Wen Stephenson Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:50:56 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10571 Jarrod. Jarrod.

]]> By: Jarrod http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10570 Jarrod Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:50:43 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10570 deleuze's 'difference and repetition' deleuze’s ‘difference and repetition’

]]> By: Wen Stephenson http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/02/the-art-of-mashups/comment-page-1#comment-10569 Wen Stephenson Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:50:42 +0000 http://www.onpointradio.org/?p=13719#comment-10569 Thanks, Thanks,

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