Oh it’s all about you Lilya isn’t it.

How is that you can use abstracts to make your points, such as stealing someones identity and then saying it’s to make your point and when someone else makes a statement on a related idea you cry foul?

What gives you the authority to make these assumptions and pass judgment on others? Because they disagree with you?

Who are you to pass judgment on anyone.

Now when your called on it you complain and say don’t call me names. For your information the issues is being a Jew and being a Palestinian and this relationship is a valid issue. The histories of these two people can’t be ignored. Your constant denial of this shows how little you seem to understand about this situation.

Your ideas are absurd.
You don’t offer anything but this idea of buying out the Palestinians, are you serious? Do you think they can be bought? Of course you don’t and this is why you keep harking on this. Your real agenda is the demise of Israel. You have stated this and have made enough statements to this effect. That your Jewish only points to a another problem of the self. Good luck with that.

It is about the Occupation.

Either Israel should give the Palestinian land back or the Government of israel should buy the land and compensate for the generational pain and suffering (big checks).

If you have a better alternative, please write back…if you don’t…don’t call other people names.

Do you see any trace of hate, anger, rudeness in this posting?

You can’t escape what you are. Also there are some fundamentalist Muslims who would also behead you the minute they found out you were a Jew.

Your entitled to your opinions, know one said you were not. The problems arise when other people disagree with you. Then you go off and start in with the insults and the anger goes up a few notches. You must be a load of fun at parties…

Of course, Dr. Abuelaish is a wonderful guy. What a wonderful human being and dad and a citizen of this world.

But if he were to critize the Occupation with a semi-strong language, you know where he would have been right now instead of the spotlights in USA.

The reason why his daughters were killed not becuase of the blue skyies and the color of roses….it is the Occupation, s’tupid!

This is just another concerted effort of Feel Good campaign that pushes the Occupation of the discussion table; just like Interfaith Communication get togethers and Summer Camps for Kids from Both sides.

These are my opinions, honest and not influenced with my former religion (J….) and what you think about my postings. And I don’t care if you call me names, OK?

He is a remarkable figure.

For those looking to hear more, you can listen to a public discussion he held in Washington with Ori Nir at http://www.peacenow.org/updates.asp?rid=0&cid=6144

There is also a remarkable news story about his U.S. tour at http://thenational.ae/article/20090423/FOREIGN/704229867/1135

Pragmatism

A senior economic advisor to Mr Obama, Paul Volcker, recently put his name to a paper which included a “more pragmatic approach to Hamas” among wider policy recommendations.

Harry Siegman, the head of the think-tank behind the document, believes there are “early indications” that the new US government will adopt its advice to “cease discouraging” third parties from dealing with Hamas.

Many Gazans live in tents as reconstruction is bogged down in politics
Mr Siegman says reaction to the document was “very positive” at a recent meeting which he says was attended by several “senior members” of the Obama administration, including US Middle East envoy George Mitchell.

Meanwhile, Martin Indyk, a former US ambassador to Israel who advised US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during her presidential campaign, recently co-wrote a book chapter asserting that “a peace process that excludes” Hamas is “bound to fail”.

If an Israel-Hamas ceasefire held and Fatah and Hamas reconciled, the US should deal with a Palestinian unity government and “authorise low-level contact with Hamas in Gaza”, it said.

And in January, Tony Blair, the international community’s Middle East envoy, warned against “pushing Gaza aside”.

“I do think it is important that we find a way of bringing Hamas into this process,” he told the Times newspaper, although he holds that Hamas should meet the three conditions first.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8014069.stm

See how annoying that is.

Problem:
There is only One house (not two)
Owner #1: Original/Legal owner (poor/defenseless/homeless) [dark skin/Arabic Speaking]
Owner #2: Occupant (militarily strong/affluent/with $$$/connected) [transplant from Europe/white/non-Arabic speaking]

If this issue has come to any US court; the Judge would solve this issue in two ways (not one, not three)
1) Throws the Occupier into jail
2) Force the parties into arbitration [out of court settlement] (Occupier paying loads of money to the Legal Owner)

The amount of Out of court settlement in monetary terms is growing and growing with each decade.

Another concern is that populations are growing and weapons are getting more effective with longer ranges.

As you can see, United States of America is not a party of interest here.
But the problem, the conflict will show its ugly head more and more in the halls of Washington, our Elections and Elected officials will get more corrupted; and we will see the swelling in the Pantagon budget and sqeeze in our future financial well being.

That’s why US Government should has to find a solution (or imposing is even better). That’s why we just cannot let this injustice/conflict go on forever before monetary solution becomes out of reach.

That is what all these postings were about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxyPBQirBH0&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuq3GnOXXjg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo%2Egoogle%2Ecom%2Fvideosearch%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3Dsilent%2520exodus%26um%3D1%26ie%3DUTF%2D8%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwv&feature=player_embedded

You hit on a very good point. The other Arab countries, which after WW2 were not what we see today. One has to remember that all of Jordan and the area of Israel and Palestine were under British and French colonial rule.

You should rent the film The Battle of Algiers, is a 1966 black-and-white film by Gillo Pontecorvo based on events during the 1954-1962 Algerian War against French rule.

This is a good incite into the rise of pan Arabic nationalism that was sweeping the the area after WW2.

Also look up Gamal Abdel Nasser who advocated the advancement of Arab nationalism. It is under this background that Israel was founded.

The other thing I think people should be aware of is who when you start talking about rich Jews who run the media and banks that this is old anti-Semitic language dating back to the turn of the century. It’s very offensive and Lilya knows this. So all this talk of money and buying out people is not a good thing. Also in the historical context to European Jews the Nazis used this in a cynical way in Hungry. They offered Hungarian Jews the option of buying there way out of the gas chambers, only to send them to their deaths anyway.

The other thing is that during the 30’s and 40’s the United States had a strict quota on Jewish immigrants. Even after the death camps were known to exist Roosevelt refused to lift this quota due to the factions in his own cabinet who were Jewish and some of whom were anti-Semitic. The problem was Charles Lindbergh a very popular personality and an extreme anti-Semite.

I think one needs to read up on a lot this history to understand how a convergence of events. In particular the aftermath of WW2 the huge amount of Jewish refugees coupled with the rise of Arab nationalism. One also has to remember that after WW2 in some countries, such a Poland when Jewish refugees returned home they were met with violence. I think 100,000 Polish Jews were murdered after the war by the Poles, just imagine surviving the death camps only to beaten to death after returning to your town or village.

This story The Tragedy of the S.S. St. Louis is also a good incite into the way Jewish immigrants were dealt with during this time.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/stlouis.html