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		<title>By: Learning self-control and delay of gratification &#171; Happy-Well Health and Fitness Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Learning self-control and delay of gratification &#171; Happy-Well Health and Fitness Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to a Public Radio discussion of the New Yorker article (45 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: кpacaвицaвocтoкa</title>
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		<dc:creator>кpacaвицaвocтoкa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 17:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Я никогда не сомневался в Ваших интеллектуальных способностях, но поймите, не все такие как Вы. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Я никогда не сомневался в Ваших интеллектуальных способностях, но поймите, не все такие как Вы. <img src='http://www.onpointradio.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pick of the Podcasts &#171; The Curious Autodidact</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pick of the Podcasts &#171; The Curious Autodidact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 05:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ashbrook On Point radio out of Boston talks for an hour about &#8220;delayed gratification&#8221; and Michael Krasney on KQED show Forum in San Fran talking about the state of American [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ashbrook On Point radio out of Boston talks for an hour about &#8220;delayed gratification&#8221; and Michael Krasney on KQED show Forum in San Fran talking about the state of American [...]</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 11:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a subject I learned 30 years ago in college. It was one thing that really stuck with me over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a subject I learned 30 years ago in college. It was one thing that really stuck with me over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: CoventryLeague.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoventryLeague.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 03:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice to review a study of adults&#039; self-control, particularly with some executives of under-performing businesses...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice to review a study of adults&#8217; self-control, particularly with some executives of under-performing businesses&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-05-14 &#171; Lasting Impression</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-05-14 &#171; Lasting Impression</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our Delayed Gratification Era &#8211; On Point with Tom Ashbrook Forty-plus years ago, psychologists sat kids down in front of a tasty marshmallow to see who could wait the longest before grabbing and eating when the prize was double the treat. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our Delayed Gratification Era &#8211; On Point with Tom Ashbrook Forty-plus years ago, psychologists sat kids down in front of a tasty marshmallow to see who could wait the longest before grabbing and eating when the prize was double the treat. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 04:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure the WTC was full of people who delayed gratification up until the morning of 9/11. People who endured horrendous commutes, worked absurdly long hours, and always found reasons to put off their much-needed vacations. And then a plane flew into the building, and they had to choose a window to fall from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure the WTC was full of people who delayed gratification up until the morning of 9/11. People who endured horrendous commutes, worked absurdly long hours, and always found reasons to put off their much-needed vacations. And then a plane flew into the building, and they had to choose a window to fall from.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/impulse-thrift-and-self-control/comment-page-1#comment-16953</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. I can see the change in recreational shopping will be good for us, our families and our health, but don&#039;t forget the many of us who are already sick of consumerism and the marketing associated with it.It is refreshing to not buy something. 
I see in my work that people are facing poverty and food insecurity and still spending money on Walstuff. The money is running low, the poor getting poorer, and tv time is still an average of 2 hours a day for children. The marketing is still powerful and effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. I can see the change in recreational shopping will be good for us, our families and our health, but don&#8217;t forget the many of us who are already sick of consumerism and the marketing associated with it.It is refreshing to not buy something.<br />
I see in my work that people are facing poverty and food insecurity and still spending money on Walstuff. The money is running low, the poor getting poorer, and tv time is still an average of 2 hours a day for children. The marketing is still powerful and effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this conversation interesting, but I think we need to remember that many people to do not enter credit card debt because they are buying luxuries and vacation homes, but paying for grocery bills and doctors&#039; visits.

I can&#039;t help but wonder if a more important conversation would have been over the fact 17 percent of children under the age of five in the U.S. are now at risk of hunger?

It seems ever easier to discuss abundance than depravity--for even the decision to &quot;buy less&quot; and &quot;save up&quot; is coming from a point of privilege; what we don&#039;t hear are from those for whom neither is an option.

On a final note, I agree with Don&#039;s comment that unresolved issues can drive purchasing.  Another thing to consider, perhaps, is that there are few public places that are non-commercialized.  Look into any coffee shop at 11 p.m.--at least in my city--and it&#039;s nearly full.  As I think these people have wireless and tea at home, I suspect what they are seeking is human contact.  Too often we have only commercial--and now corporate--spaces left to fulfill our need to socialize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this conversation interesting, but I think we need to remember that many people to do not enter credit card debt because they are buying luxuries and vacation homes, but paying for grocery bills and doctors&#8217; visits.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but wonder if a more important conversation would have been over the fact 17 percent of children under the age of five in the U.S. are now at risk of hunger?</p>
<p>It seems ever easier to discuss abundance than depravity&#8211;for even the decision to &#8220;buy less&#8221; and &#8220;save up&#8221; is coming from a point of privilege; what we don&#8217;t hear are from those for whom neither is an option.</p>
<p>On a final note, I agree with Don&#8217;s comment that unresolved issues can drive purchasing.  Another thing to consider, perhaps, is that there are few public places that are non-commercialized.  Look into any coffee shop at 11 p.m.&#8211;at least in my city&#8211;and it&#8217;s nearly full.  As I think these people have wireless and tea at home, I suspect what they are seeking is human contact.  Too often we have only commercial&#8211;and now corporate&#8211;spaces left to fulfill our need to socialize.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for a timely and interesting discussion today.  I see so much relevance for this topic in almost all areas of modern life, and it seems that delayed gratification...self-control...prioritizing...could really be the key to solving many of the problems that happen in our times.  Ha--does that make me a libertarian?!

As a parent of two little girls (not yet four years old, as in the marshmallow experiment), I will be curious to watch my kids&#039; personalities develop, and I plan to try to parent them in a way that will encourage the qualities of &quot;distraction&quot; that Prof. Mischel talked about.  Being able to control oneself in the face of temptations such as marshmallows and credit cards will take them a long way in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for a timely and interesting discussion today.  I see so much relevance for this topic in almost all areas of modern life, and it seems that delayed gratification&#8230;self-control&#8230;prioritizing&#8230;could really be the key to solving many of the problems that happen in our times.  Ha&#8211;does that make me a libertarian?!</p>
<p>As a parent of two little girls (not yet four years old, as in the marshmallow experiment), I will be curious to watch my kids&#8217; personalities develop, and I plan to try to parent them in a way that will encourage the qualities of &#8220;distraction&#8221; that Prof. Mischel talked about.  Being able to control oneself in the face of temptations such as marshmallows and credit cards will take them a long way in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruthann Liagre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruthann Liagre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting experiment and discussion. I am most hopeful that what is happening in the world economy brings us back to paying attention to the truly Important and satisfying things in life.  I beg to differ with one of the speakers who referred to our current state as one of scarcity.  Scarcity is a mindset.  Consumerism does not equal abundance. More &quot;things&quot; do not translate to a more satisfying life.  There is abundance in our world that is overlooked by those of us consumed with the next bright, shiny toy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting experiment and discussion. I am most hopeful that what is happening in the world economy brings us back to paying attention to the truly Important and satisfying things in life.  I beg to differ with one of the speakers who referred to our current state as one of scarcity.  Scarcity is a mindset.  Consumerism does not equal abundance. More &#8220;things&#8221; do not translate to a more satisfying life.  There is abundance in our world that is overlooked by those of us consumed with the next bright, shiny toy.</p>
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		<title>By: ThresherK</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThresherK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have my doubts about applying one idea on the personal scale to an entity as a whole, whether it’s “America”, “the economy”, “consumers” or “kids today”. It reminds me of an old Doonesbury where “Wall Street” in the form of a person was before Congress on the subject of tax writeoffs for business entertaining, and had to be bribed with martinis to feel productive enough to finish its testimony.

But, if we are going to extrapolate:

If it weren’t for easy credit or mortgage refinancing available to regular folks (under dodgy long-term prospect, often), wouldn’t the recession have started months or years earlier?

And as far as an example of delayed gratification goes, how about the tens of millions of Americans in the working and middle classes who watched corporate profits, executive salaries, and the stock market go up during the last expansion, but when they asked for raises, were told &quot;You’re lucky to have a job&quot; by a corporation or &quot;wage increases for commoners will make America less competitive with (Chinese slave labor or other threat inserted here)&quot; by about all of the mainstream media?

(PS: I was in and out of radioshot during the program, so I don’t know if these subjects were covered.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my doubts about applying one idea on the personal scale to an entity as a whole, whether it’s “America”, “the economy”, “consumers” or “kids today”. It reminds me of an old Doonesbury where “Wall Street” in the form of a person was before Congress on the subject of tax writeoffs for business entertaining, and had to be bribed with martinis to feel productive enough to finish its testimony.</p>
<p>But, if we are going to extrapolate:</p>
<p>If it weren’t for easy credit or mortgage refinancing available to regular folks (under dodgy long-term prospect, often), wouldn’t the recession have started months or years earlier?</p>
<p>And as far as an example of delayed gratification goes, how about the tens of millions of Americans in the working and middle classes who watched corporate profits, executive salaries, and the stock market go up during the last expansion, but when they asked for raises, were told &#8220;You’re lucky to have a job&#8221; by a corporation or &#8220;wage increases for commoners will make America less competitive with (Chinese slave labor or other threat inserted here)&#8221; by about all of the mainstream media?</p>
<p>(PS: I was in and out of radioshot during the program, so I don’t know if these subjects were covered.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we should all become &quot;savers&quot; and not spend any money?  No thanks.  I already tried that.  While my sister spent her inheritance on a $70,000 kitchen, I &quot;the saver&quot;, put it in my retirement fund.  Now that money is worth $40,000 and she&#039;s sitting in a nice remodeled kitchen.  My kitchen is 50 years old, but since I delayed gratification, I was rewarded with exactly what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we should all become &#8220;savers&#8221; and not spend any money?  No thanks.  I already tried that.  While my sister spent her inheritance on a $70,000 kitchen, I &#8220;the saver&#8221;, put it in my retirement fund.  Now that money is worth $40,000 and she&#8217;s sitting in a nice remodeled kitchen.  My kitchen is 50 years old, but since I delayed gratification, I was rewarded with exactly what?</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was talk about humans&#039; ability to change and adapt, and I agree.  My worry is that it is harder to get an entire nation to change and adapt, especially when it seems like a regression to earlier values and ideas.

Will the United States be able to reform from the position we are now?  Or will the resistance we now face cause us to crumble and require us build from scratch?  Is that where we are headed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was talk about humans&#8217; ability to change and adapt, and I agree.  My worry is that it is harder to get an entire nation to change and adapt, especially when it seems like a regression to earlier values and ideas.</p>
<p>Will the United States be able to reform from the position we are now?  Or will the resistance we now face cause us to crumble and require us build from scratch?  Is that where we are headed?</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be interested in Tom taking this topic further since no one addressed the way that gratification, whether instant or delayed, is tied up with a mentality of poverty and deprivation. If anything the program this morning supported that mentality. 

Until we make a fundamental shift in our understanding that abundance does not always mean more stuff, that it can mean an abundance of space and time and freedom from the culture driven attitude that our worth is determined by our financial wealth and property, we are doomed to feel deprived with less.

We don&#039;t have to live in rags and hovels but less is more. It does take self discipline and courage and time to resist impulse and find the emotional relief that comes with it.  I am optimist that the current economy is an opportunity for some people to understand that less can be more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be interested in Tom taking this topic further since no one addressed the way that gratification, whether instant or delayed, is tied up with a mentality of poverty and deprivation. If anything the program this morning supported that mentality. </p>
<p>Until we make a fundamental shift in our understanding that abundance does not always mean more stuff, that it can mean an abundance of space and time and freedom from the culture driven attitude that our worth is determined by our financial wealth and property, we are doomed to feel deprived with less.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have to live in rags and hovels but less is more. It does take self discipline and courage and time to resist impulse and find the emotional relief that comes with it.  I am optimist that the current economy is an opportunity for some people to understand that less can be more.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recollect (perhaps wrongly) that Marcuse wrote of &quot;repressive de-sublimation&quot; where individuals buy products rather than dealing with their underlying problems. 

An example would be where someone is unhappy with their job decides to buy some expensive toy, e.g. an off-road vehicle.  This provides some respite from the problem at the cost of incurring debt limiting the ability to change their condition.  

It is repressive because society wants its citizens to be compliant drones not challenging their social condition nor the the ways it is organized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recollect (perhaps wrongly) that Marcuse wrote of &#8220;repressive de-sublimation&#8221; where individuals buy products rather than dealing with their underlying problems. </p>
<p>An example would be where someone is unhappy with their job decides to buy some expensive toy, e.g. an off-road vehicle.  This provides some respite from the problem at the cost of incurring debt limiting the ability to change their condition.  </p>
<p>It is repressive because society wants its citizens to be compliant drones not challenging their social condition nor the the ways it is organized.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do we get more information on finding &amp; applying these methods to our lives?  I feel like I could address so many personal issues - spending, weight, poor choices, learning strategies, etc.  I like gratifying activities &amp; need feedback</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do we get more information on finding &amp; applying these methods to our lives?  I feel like I could address so many personal issues &#8211; spending, weight, poor choices, learning strategies, etc.  I like gratifying activities &amp; need feedback</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the problem with the &quot;I want it now&quot; impulse is we confuse credit with money, and we are not diligent enough to keep track. If we need something, put it on the credit card! And we&#039;re shocked when the bill arrives, because we didn&#039;t do the math, and we don&#039;t have the money to pay it. 

As I&#039;m fond of saying, I didn&#039;t marry into money; I married into money management. My wife and I enter all credit card receipts into our bank checkbook, so we always know how much we have to spend. It takes more time, but we&#039;re never shocked when the credit card bills arrive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the problem with the &#8220;I want it now&#8221; impulse is we confuse credit with money, and we are not diligent enough to keep track. If we need something, put it on the credit card! And we&#8217;re shocked when the bill arrives, because we didn&#8217;t do the math, and we don&#8217;t have the money to pay it. </p>
<p>As I&#8217;m fond of saying, I didn&#8217;t marry into money; I married into money management. My wife and I enter all credit card receipts into our bank checkbook, so we always know how much we have to spend. It takes more time, but we&#8217;re never shocked when the credit card bills arrive.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the connection (or lack thereof) between self-control and creativity (or lack thereof).

Seems to me that too much self-control might get in the face of going with your gut, following your instincts and being creative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the connection (or lack thereof) between self-control and creativity (or lack thereof).</p>
<p>Seems to me that too much self-control might get in the face of going with your gut, following your instincts and being creative.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/impulse-thrift-and-self-control/comment-page-1#comment-16934</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious to know Dr. Mischel&#039;s thoughts on the diagnosis of ADHD which has become somewhat ubiquitous in our culture since his marshmallow experiments.  Has he attempted to separate out these children who may carry this diagnosis in his experiments?  What is his opinion of the treatment of attentional issues with stimulant medications and does he believe we are ultimately doing more harm or good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious to know Dr. Mischel&#8217;s thoughts on the diagnosis of ADHD which has become somewhat ubiquitous in our culture since his marshmallow experiments.  Has he attempted to separate out these children who may carry this diagnosis in his experiments?  What is his opinion of the treatment of attentional issues with stimulant medications and does he believe we are ultimately doing more harm or good?</p>
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