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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-17030</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine--I couldn&#039;t agree with you more. The Ken Burns Jazz Series is INCREDIBLE. I watched the series a month ago via Netflix, and was so disappointed when it was over! For some reason, it&#039;s fashionable to dis Burns...I think a lot of it is because he&#039;s focusing on history instead of the present. But given the fact that jazz&#039;s past GREATLY surpasses the present, what&#039;s the problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine&#8211;I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more. The Ken Burns Jazz Series is INCREDIBLE. I watched the series a month ago via Netflix, and was so disappointed when it was over! For some reason, it&#8217;s fashionable to dis Burns&#8230;I think a lot of it is because he&#8217;s focusing on history instead of the present. But given the fact that jazz&#8217;s past GREATLY surpasses the present, what&#8217;s the problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Christine W.</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16955</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a question, even tho this is weeks after this great show aired.  Why the &quot;dis&quot; about the Ken Burns series?  I&#039;m having trouble getting THRU to the last couple of Burns discs because each one is SO great, I watch each one over &amp; over.  I&#039;m not sure how far K. Burns goes in time, but is he getting dismissed because maybe he doesn&#039;t cover contemporary jazz?  If so,  WHY expect everything from one artist???!!!  His history of the art form IS needed, and what a job he does!!!  And he knits the history of jazz with the history of America so exquisitely.  He usually does do HISTORY, so again, why did one commenter say something snide?  And, even the guest suggested something negative about the Burns series.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a question, even tho this is weeks after this great show aired.  Why the &#8220;dis&#8221; about the Ken Burns series?  I&#8217;m having trouble getting THRU to the last couple of Burns discs because each one is SO great, I watch each one over &amp; over.  I&#8217;m not sure how far K. Burns goes in time, but is he getting dismissed because maybe he doesn&#8217;t cover contemporary jazz?  If so,  WHY expect everything from one artist???!!!  His history of the art form IS needed, and what a job he does!!!  And he knits the history of jazz with the history of America so exquisitely.  He usually does do HISTORY, so again, why did one commenter say something snide?  And, even the guest suggested something negative about the Burns series.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16290</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 01:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, this was a great show which got people talking. Thanks, for shining the light on the talent in my generation(Gen Y too). After all, there&#039;s a wealth of it that often gets over looked by some in the Boomer generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, this was a great show which got people talking. Thanks, for shining the light on the talent in my generation(Gen Y too). After all, there&#8217;s a wealth of it that often gets over looked by some in the Boomer generation.</p>
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		<title>By: zoi</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16279</link>
		<dc:creator>zoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 21:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At times, I really wish I live in MA area, so I can just go more often to Pat&#039;s small moderate live show, it would be great, especially when he plays just his guitar, or with other great musicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At times, I really wish I live in MA area, so I can just go more often to Pat&#8217;s small moderate live show, it would be great, especially when he plays just his guitar, or with other great musicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Auclair</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16278</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Auclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 20:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Gary Burton, Pat Metheny, Steve Swallow and Antonio Sanchez are all coming to Boston June 20.  Also they will play with a slew of other jazz icons and up-and-coming artists like Julian Lage at Freihofer&#039;s Jazz Festival in Saratoga New York.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Gary Burton, Pat Metheny, Steve Swallow and Antonio Sanchez are all coming to Boston June 20.  Also they will play with a slew of other jazz icons and up-and-coming artists like Julian Lage at Freihofer&#8217;s Jazz Festival in Saratoga New York.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16273</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Miles--I recently saw Pat Metheny, Christian McBride, and Antonio Sanchez in concert. NOTHING lip-synced there, my man! Granted, I know you were making comments about the PMG, but my point is this: Pat has a crossover popularity that very, VERY few others in the world of jazz have. One of my first experiences with jazz was hearing Pat&#039;s music played by marching drum corps. That led me to the music of Miles, Monk, Coltrane, Ella Fitzgerald, etc. And I&#039;m not the only one out there with a story like this!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Miles&#8211;I recently saw Pat Metheny, Christian McBride, and Antonio Sanchez in concert. NOTHING lip-synced there, my man! Granted, I know you were making comments about the PMG, but my point is this: Pat has a crossover popularity that very, VERY few others in the world of jazz have. One of my first experiences with jazz was hearing Pat&#8217;s music played by marching drum corps. That led me to the music of Miles, Monk, Coltrane, Ella Fitzgerald, etc. And I&#8217;m not the only one out there with a story like this!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16272</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz to me means &quot;All Blues&quot;...especially Bill Evans&#039; piano solo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz to me means &#8220;All Blues&#8221;&#8230;especially Bill Evans&#8217; piano solo.</p>
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		<title>By: Miles Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16256</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By lip synced I mean that he has his band members learn the solos from a recording, and then they go out and sync their movements with the music, not actually playing.  He doesn&#039;t do it at every show, but when he starts a new band, this is what they do for the first few live performances.  It&#039;s pretty remarkable considering how large his audiences are and the risk that is involved.  Not too take away from his music, he&#039;s great, but it&#039;s something that he doesn&#039;t have to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By lip synced I mean that he has his band members learn the solos from a recording, and then they go out and sync their movements with the music, not actually playing.  He doesn&#8217;t do it at every show, but when he starts a new band, this is what they do for the first few live performances.  It&#8217;s pretty remarkable considering how large his audiences are and the risk that is involved.  Not too take away from his music, he&#8217;s great, but it&#8217;s something that he doesn&#8217;t have to do.</p>
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		<title>By: zoi</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16247</link>
		<dc:creator>zoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*****The Metheny band uses tape loops in concert, and the issue is…*****

Could you tell me why those things should take away the value of being a true musician and artist who compose with his heart and soul, and plays like a master?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*****The Metheny band uses tape loops in concert, and the issue is…*****</p>
<p>Could you tell me why those things should take away the value of being a true musician and artist who compose with his heart and soul, and plays like a master?</p>
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		<title>By: mr.independant</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16218</link>
		<dc:creator>mr.independant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 08:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat Metheny has played with Ornette Coleman and Joni Mitchell which shows his musicianship as well as an openness to new ideas. His album 80/81 is one hell of a record and features the late Michael Brecker.

His playing on one of Josh Redmans early recordings, I think it was a live recording from the Village Vanguard, shows a master of the jazz guitar at work.

I&#039;m not to into a lot of his own records except 80/81, but that&#039;s just a taste thing. Still he&#039;s an amazing guitarist no matter what he plays.

The Metheny band uses tape loops in concert, and the issue is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat Metheny has played with Ornette Coleman and Joni Mitchell which shows his musicianship as well as an openness to new ideas. His album 80/81 is one hell of a record and features the late Michael Brecker.</p>
<p>His playing on one of Josh Redmans early recordings, I think it was a live recording from the Village Vanguard, shows a master of the jazz guitar at work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not to into a lot of his own records except 80/81, but that&#8217;s just a taste thing. Still he&#8217;s an amazing guitarist no matter what he plays.</p>
<p>The Metheny band uses tape loops in concert, and the issue is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: zoi</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16210</link>
		<dc:creator>zoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to miles davis (want to be):

When you say Pat Metheny live show is &quot;lip Synced&quot;, meaning their instrumental or vocal parts?  I assume you mean the vocals.  His/their music(referring to him or his group) does have vocals humming, and he/they use it just as one of their instruments. 

I have been to a few of his/their live shows and watch most of his live dvd, NO, the most focal instruments are every bit of &quot;real&quot; live shows, and they are awesome.

As far as you criticize of his/their heavily edited recording, get over it, because his music/cd are theatrical and dramatic that has layers, yes, it does need lots of editing, just like making a film. His approach is different from conventional jazz, I admire his/their spirit of exploring and experimenting music.   That&#039;s what people called &quot;innovated&quot; music without putting themselves in a &quot;conventional&quot; box.
And he does lots of conventional jazz too.

I like one of the above comments about just letting the jazz evolve and change, like everything else.  So called authenticity is only the earliest form of everything, we appreciate the authenticity as well as evolving from it.  

There&#039;s no need to decry if one of your favorites are not mentioned either, there are too many out there to be covered in this one hour show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to miles davis (want to be):</p>
<p>When you say Pat Metheny live show is &#8220;lip Synced&#8221;, meaning their instrumental or vocal parts?  I assume you mean the vocals.  His/their music(referring to him or his group) does have vocals humming, and he/they use it just as one of their instruments. </p>
<p>I have been to a few of his/their live shows and watch most of his live dvd, NO, the most focal instruments are every bit of &#8220;real&#8221; live shows, and they are awesome.</p>
<p>As far as you criticize of his/their heavily edited recording, get over it, because his music/cd are theatrical and dramatic that has layers, yes, it does need lots of editing, just like making a film. His approach is different from conventional jazz, I admire his/their spirit of exploring and experimenting music.   That&#8217;s what people called &#8220;innovated&#8221; music without putting themselves in a &#8220;conventional&#8221; box.<br />
And he does lots of conventional jazz too.</p>
<p>I like one of the above comments about just letting the jazz evolve and change, like everything else.  So called authenticity is only the earliest form of everything, we appreciate the authenticity as well as evolving from it.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no need to decry if one of your favorites are not mentioned either, there are too many out there to be covered in this one hour show.</p>
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		<title>By: miles davis</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16207</link>
		<dc:creator>miles davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 23:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s too bad that these threads always end up becoming name-dropping threads.  Many people decry why their favorite artist was left out.  Get over yourself.  Of course people are going to be left out.  It&#039;s too bad many decide take it personal. 

 What many people don&#039;t know about Pat Metheny is that his records are HEAVILY edited and some of his live shows are lip-synced.  How in line is that with the spirit of jazz (spontanaiety, etc.)?  

For someone to say that Dave Douglas has a voice and Nicholas Payton doesn&#039;t obviously needs to do some more listening.  They both do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too bad that these threads always end up becoming name-dropping threads.  Many people decry why their favorite artist was left out.  Get over yourself.  Of course people are going to be left out.  It&#8217;s too bad many decide take it personal. </p>
<p> What many people don&#8217;t know about Pat Metheny is that his records are HEAVILY edited and some of his live shows are lip-synced.  How in line is that with the spirit of jazz (spontanaiety, etc.)?  </p>
<p>For someone to say that Dave Douglas has a voice and Nicholas Payton doesn&#8217;t obviously needs to do some more listening.  They both do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mob Rules</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16205</link>
		<dc:creator>Mob Rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I have to say is SEX MOB.  If you follow the family tree of New York&#039;s Sex Mob, you will find yourself exploring some of the best in new music.  They call it jazz, but they have a much broader pantheon of &quot;standards&quot;.  How they left out Steven Bernstein, Tony Scherr, Briggan Krauss and Kenny Wollesen, I&#039;ll never know.  Here is a partial list of the people they have worked with: Kansas City Band (from Robert Altman&#039;s film Kansas City), Jim Thirlwell&#039;s Steroid Maximus, and Hal Wilner&#039;s Leonard Cohen , Doc Pomus, and Bill Withers Projects, Diaspora Soul, Diaspora Blues, Diaspora Hollywood, and Diaspora Suite. Roswell Rudd,Sam Rivers, Don Byron, and Medeski, Martin &amp; Wood, Aretha Franklin, Lou Reed, Linda Ronstadt, Digable Planets, Sting and Courtney Love. Levon Helm&#039;s Midnight Ramble band, Bill Frisell, Rufus Wainright, Marrianne Faithfull, Elton John, John Lurie and the Lounge Lizards, Woody Herman, John Scofield, Norah Jones, Ana Egge, Jesse Harris and the Ferdinandos, and Chris Brown and the Citizen Band, Al DiMeola, Either/Orchestra, Norah Jones, Tom Waits, Sean Lennon, Ron Sexsmith, John Zorn, Jane Scarpantoni 
Kamikaze Ground Crew, Sean Lennon , Pig Pen, Wayne Horvitz, Skerik, Eyvind Kang, Robin Holcomb, Anthony Coleman, Trey Anastasio, Joan Wasser, Hal Willner, Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed, Nick Cave, Laurie Anderson, Beth Orton, Cat Power.

I know that this post is way too long, but
I&#039;m just sayin&#039;:SEX MOB are definitely icons among us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I have to say is SEX MOB.  If you follow the family tree of New York&#8217;s Sex Mob, you will find yourself exploring some of the best in new music.  They call it jazz, but they have a much broader pantheon of &#8220;standards&#8221;.  How they left out Steven Bernstein, Tony Scherr, Briggan Krauss and Kenny Wollesen, I&#8217;ll never know.  Here is a partial list of the people they have worked with: Kansas City Band (from Robert Altman&#8217;s film Kansas City), Jim Thirlwell&#8217;s Steroid Maximus, and Hal Wilner&#8217;s Leonard Cohen , Doc Pomus, and Bill Withers Projects, Diaspora Soul, Diaspora Blues, Diaspora Hollywood, and Diaspora Suite. Roswell Rudd,Sam Rivers, Don Byron, and Medeski, Martin &amp; Wood, Aretha Franklin, Lou Reed, Linda Ronstadt, Digable Planets, Sting and Courtney Love. Levon Helm&#8217;s Midnight Ramble band, Bill Frisell, Rufus Wainright, Marrianne Faithfull, Elton John, John Lurie and the Lounge Lizards, Woody Herman, John Scofield, Norah Jones, Ana Egge, Jesse Harris and the Ferdinandos, and Chris Brown and the Citizen Band, Al DiMeola, Either/Orchestra, Norah Jones, Tom Waits, Sean Lennon, Ron Sexsmith, John Zorn, Jane Scarpantoni<br />
Kamikaze Ground Crew, Sean Lennon , Pig Pen, Wayne Horvitz, Skerik, Eyvind Kang, Robin Holcomb, Anthony Coleman, Trey Anastasio, Joan Wasser, Hal Willner, Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed, Nick Cave, Laurie Anderson, Beth Orton, Cat Power.</p>
<p>I know that this post is way too long, but<br />
I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;:SEX MOB are definitely icons among us.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16198</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 06:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blah blah...Just...THANK YOU for the show! &quot;Jazz&quot; thang has always been strangled by too many wordy-jerks parading their &quot;theories&quot; to make themselves feel clever,and impress others.Just FEEL it!!!! And,again,thanks,Mr.Ashbrook.(And,you know Yardbird,Miles,etc. would say...Go ahead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blah blah&#8230;Just&#8230;THANK YOU for the show! &#8220;Jazz&#8221; thang has always been strangled by too many wordy-jerks parading their &#8220;theories&#8221; to make themselves feel clever,and impress others.Just FEEL it!!!! And,again,thanks,Mr.Ashbrook.(And,you know Yardbird,Miles,etc. would say&#8230;Go ahead!</p>
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		<title>By: zoi</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16196</link>
		<dc:creator>zoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 04:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny that no one has mentioned the fusion jazz group &quot;Pat Metheny&quot;.  

I&#039;m not a jazz expert, but I sure love Pat Metheny&#039;s innovaton in modern jazz.  To me, His music shows contour, and his guitar will take you on a trip and tell you stories!  

Not everyone one of his albums are great, but most of them are, especially his own &quot;Secret Story&quot;, he invites you there without a formal invitation, you just have to find your way there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that no one has mentioned the fusion jazz group &#8220;Pat Metheny&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a jazz expert, but I sure love Pat Metheny&#8217;s innovaton in modern jazz.  To me, His music shows contour, and his guitar will take you on a trip and tell you stories!  </p>
<p>Not everyone one of his albums are great, but most of them are, especially his own &#8220;Secret Story&#8221;, he invites you there without a formal invitation, you just have to find your way there!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16195</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 02:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy to hear about this documentary. But I am reminded of a talk I heard in the early 1970s by Pearl Primus, the great African American anthropologist, choreographer and dancer, who noted that her studies of dance/movement traditions in the African diaspora taught her that every tradition she had observed or studied had those people who kept to the tradition and those who pushed into new territory, and that both lines were important features of a vital cultural tradition. This conversation is also tied to a quote, again from the 1970s, by Ornette Coleman, who said that the division of music into categories--jazz, rock, whatever--is a function of the commodification of music into various categories so that they could be sold. People who are into the tradition will play and compose in that tradition and those who see other possibilities will move there. It all means that the form is alive. But this notion that one or the other is &quot;wrong&quot; is ridiculous and tied to market concerns--which I understand given that musicians need to make a living and forces external to them have a huge role in whether they do that or not. But be clear--this conversation and these arguments are NOT about the music and its validity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to hear about this documentary. But I am reminded of a talk I heard in the early 1970s by Pearl Primus, the great African American anthropologist, choreographer and dancer, who noted that her studies of dance/movement traditions in the African diaspora taught her that every tradition she had observed or studied had those people who kept to the tradition and those who pushed into new territory, and that both lines were important features of a vital cultural tradition. This conversation is also tied to a quote, again from the 1970s, by Ornette Coleman, who said that the division of music into categories&#8211;jazz, rock, whatever&#8211;is a function of the commodification of music into various categories so that they could be sold. People who are into the tradition will play and compose in that tradition and those who see other possibilities will move there. It all means that the form is alive. But this notion that one or the other is &#8220;wrong&#8221; is ridiculous and tied to market concerns&#8211;which I understand given that musicians need to make a living and forces external to them have a huge role in whether they do that or not. But be clear&#8211;this conversation and these arguments are NOT about the music and its validity.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 01:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is funny!  i wasn&#039;t &quot;bored&quot; at the charlie parker point but i knew quickly that it might start being compared and debated before they even had a chance to talk!  i tuned in to hear something other than  charlie parker..  at least it moved on quickly! 

 to Valkyrie : I think the producer did name jeff ballard though and is not a valid musician that was left out of the doc. ballard is a name that can only be quickly referenced ( and quoted ) because this producer obviously &quot;gets it.&quot;  if he didn&#039;t &quot;get it,&quot; he would have referenced a name much more mainstream.   although, that is the problem. what name is mainstream ?  this  is the problem that tom didn&#039;t seem to understand.  i would be pretty shocked if any of these musicians have any &quot;burden&quot; that they carry through life with them just because they happen to play in the &quot;jazz&quot; idiom. jeff ballard music really is jeff ballard music. alan evans music is alan evans music.  soulive music is soulive music ( which alan evans contributes to as one of the voices that make up that sound we know as &quot;soulive&quot;)

 when i am at any one of the films featured musicians live shows, the LAST thing i am thinking is .. &quot; so is this the song that is jazz guys? or this one ? no? oh, wait.. it is ??  
no. hell no. 
i am in whatever moment that soulive is creating for me, the audience member, to become part of that unique live performance.  that performance, that song..  it only existed in that moment and it will never exist again .. quite that same way.  it too , will evolve the next time they improvise on that song again.  soul LIVE.  it is a live art. 


  where were all these comments during the call in ?  phone questions?  

alan evans isn&#039;t really phased by the confusion though. obviously. the sad part is that we have to keep defining things. it just exists.  take what you can from it. what you want. don&#039;t define it further into confusion hell. 

  i haven&#039;t seen this documentary yet but i am really excited that they are letting the musicians be the ultimate voice for the series. the music and the personalities can go a long way. however, the music needs to be heard, so i hope the music is being shown in a wide array. 

   i am sure they left several musicians out you guys,  is it possible to talk to every kick ass musician you hope for when embarking on such a massive project? nope. 

   however, i just hope it becomes easier to view this series.  what a shame if it too goes largely unnoticed. 

   that would be very jazz though!  hard to sell to the masses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is funny!  i wasn&#8217;t &#8220;bored&#8221; at the charlie parker point but i knew quickly that it might start being compared and debated before they even had a chance to talk!  i tuned in to hear something other than  charlie parker..  at least it moved on quickly! </p>
<p> to Valkyrie : I think the producer did name jeff ballard though and is not a valid musician that was left out of the doc. ballard is a name that can only be quickly referenced ( and quoted ) because this producer obviously &#8220;gets it.&#8221;  if he didn&#8217;t &#8220;get it,&#8221; he would have referenced a name much more mainstream.   although, that is the problem. what name is mainstream ?  this  is the problem that tom didn&#8217;t seem to understand.  i would be pretty shocked if any of these musicians have any &#8220;burden&#8221; that they carry through life with them just because they happen to play in the &#8220;jazz&#8221; idiom. jeff ballard music really is jeff ballard music. alan evans music is alan evans music.  soulive music is soulive music ( which alan evans contributes to as one of the voices that make up that sound we know as &#8220;soulive&#8221;)</p>
<p> when i am at any one of the films featured musicians live shows, the LAST thing i am thinking is .. &#8221; so is this the song that is jazz guys? or this one ? no? oh, wait.. it is ??<br />
no. hell no.<br />
i am in whatever moment that soulive is creating for me, the audience member, to become part of that unique live performance.  that performance, that song..  it only existed in that moment and it will never exist again .. quite that same way.  it too , will evolve the next time they improvise on that song again.  soul LIVE.  it is a live art. </p>
<p>  where were all these comments during the call in ?  phone questions?  </p>
<p>alan evans isn&#8217;t really phased by the confusion though. obviously. the sad part is that we have to keep defining things. it just exists.  take what you can from it. what you want. don&#8217;t define it further into confusion hell. </p>
<p>  i haven&#8217;t seen this documentary yet but i am really excited that they are letting the musicians be the ultimate voice for the series. the music and the personalities can go a long way. however, the music needs to be heard, so i hope the music is being shown in a wide array. </p>
<p>   i am sure they left several musicians out you guys,  is it possible to talk to every kick ass musician you hope for when embarking on such a massive project? nope. </p>
<p>   however, i just hope it becomes easier to view this series.  what a shame if it too goes largely unnoticed. </p>
<p>   that would be very jazz though!  hard to sell to the masses</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16189</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 00:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack- to answer your question- it was Skerik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack- to answer your question- it was Skerik</p>
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		<title>By: AvantJazz</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16183</link>
		<dc:creator>AvantJazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 20:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expand your horizons beyond the US and straight-ahead jazz.

From Sweden

The Thing: Mats Gustafsson / Ingebrigt Håker Flaten / Paal Nilssen-Love

Best drummer evah!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expand your horizons beyond the US and straight-ahead jazz.</p>
<p>From Sweden</p>
<p>The Thing: Mats Gustafsson / Ingebrigt Håker Flaten / Paal Nilssen-Love</p>
<p>Best drummer evah!!</p>
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		<title>By: BethB</title>
		<link>http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/05/jazz-icons-among-us/comment-page-1#comment-16176</link>
		<dc:creator>BethB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 16:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chill. Jazz IS. It&#039;s living, mutating now.

All unique art forms and &quot;movements,&quot; including jazz---are informed by the past, the present, the future, last night&#039;s dinner or argument, the neighborhood, the personal, life-changing experiences, the gut, salt, peppers, vinegar, apples and oranges--

We can&#039;t let the &quot;perfect&quot; become the enemy of the good, or the real. But at the same time, in rejecting the straightjacket of the &quot;pure,&quot; we can&#039;t also simply just create some new &quot;right&quot; way, that defines what&#039;s authentic jazz, now.  What or Who is pure blood in 2009 America, anyhow?

Stop worrying and keep breaking boundaries, even if those new buildings use bricks from the past while throwing bricks at it.... But hey, if some folks live in the past, it doesn&#039;t stop me from doing what I want.  Jazz is a big-enough tent for us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chill. Jazz IS. It&#8217;s living, mutating now.</p>
<p>All unique art forms and &#8220;movements,&#8221; including jazz&#8212;are informed by the past, the present, the future, last night&#8217;s dinner or argument, the neighborhood, the personal, life-changing experiences, the gut, salt, peppers, vinegar, apples and oranges&#8211;</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t let the &#8220;perfect&#8221; become the enemy of the good, or the real. But at the same time, in rejecting the straightjacket of the &#8220;pure,&#8221; we can&#8217;t also simply just create some new &#8220;right&#8221; way, that defines what&#8217;s authentic jazz, now.  What or Who is pure blood in 2009 America, anyhow?</p>
<p>Stop worrying and keep breaking boundaries, even if those new buildings use bricks from the past while throwing bricks at it&#8230;. But hey, if some folks live in the past, it doesn&#8217;t stop me from doing what I want.  Jazz is a big-enough tent for us all.</p>
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