I’m done with you by the way.

Post my findings? What for? Your mind is already made up.

If you kindly post your findings, proof, insider news about when and how these people ever ever tried to sell us a war for “Oil” I am all ears. You don’t know me.

I spent months in dark corners of Gaza between Hamas militiants, as their sister. I already know more about the occupation than you will ever know.

Do some constructive work, will you?

Your entitled to your opinions but this nonsense you call “the Public Investigative Journalism Project” is not what this forum is for. Again please start your own blog!

But where is the Outrage?

Mr. Bacevich is a lovely man; but which one is closer to the truth?
a) We invaded Iraq due to mistakes?
b) We invaded Iraq due to Lies?

Whoever L-i-e-d, should be held accountable to the fullest extent for the N00000 of lives that have been lost.

N = 2-6 or 9. Who cares?
Why? Because human casualty is not a concern any more. We don’t care. We don’t seek accountability!

JOURNALIST Sean Boyne and student Ibrahim al-Marashi have attacked Tony Blair for using their reports to call for war against Iraq.

A journalist holds a copy of a dossier setting out British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s case for military action against Iraq outside number 10 Downing Street in London, in this September 24, 2002 file photo. The government says it stands by the dossier, after academics said whole passages had been lifted from magazine articles, complete with spelling mistakes. REUTERS/ Dan Chung

Mr Boyne, who works for military magazine Jane’s Intelligence Review, said he was shocked his work had been used in the Government’s dossier.

Articles he wrote in 1997 were plagiarized for a 19-page intelligence document entitled Iraq: Its Infrastructure Of Concealment, Deception And Intimidation to add weight to the PM’s warmongering.

He said: “I don’t like to think that anything I wrote has been used for an argument for war. I am concerned because I am against the war.”

The other main source was a thesis by post-graduate student, Ibrahim al-Marashi, the US-born son of Iraqis, who lives in California. His research was partly based on documents seized in the 1991 Gulf War.

He said: “This is wholesale deception. How can the British public trust the Government if it is up to these sort of tricks? People will treat any other information they publish with a lot of skepticism from now on.”

January 9, 2003
Mohamed El Baradei, head of the IAEA, reports to the UN that the Iraqi aluminum tubes are intended for conventional rockets.

January 28, 2003
Bush gives his State of the Union speech, in which he utters the famous sixteen words.

February 4, 2003
When asked to provide additional reasons (beyond the Italian forgeries) to the IAEA for concern about the Niger allegations, the U.S. mentions the CIA report from Joe Wilson’s trip. This was the first time any intelligence agency used the report to support the allegations that Iraq was attempting to acquire uranium.

February 5, 2003
Secretary of State Colin Powell addresses the UN, making the case for war. Powell does not mention the Niger allegation, though he does use the aluminum tubes and MBLs to defend the war.

February 9, 2003
The United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) searches Curveball’s former worksite and determines his claims about MBLs to be false.

March 7, 2003
IAEA announces that the documents on which the Nigerien uranium claim is based are crude forgeries. They informed the administration of this four days earlier, on March 3.

March 8, 2003
On CNN, Joe Wilson suggests the administration knew the Niger claims were wrong. On the same day, the DIA again uses the report on Wilson’s trip to support allegations that Iraq sought uranium.

but both of them were before 9/11 and they were two unrelated and isolated news at that time.

I wonder if anybody else can find something.

Can somebody, anybody find a link/data showing that the “oil-names” have ever pushed or promoted Occupation of Iraq for a reason that is related with “Oil” between 09/11/2001-03/20/2003? Especially the ones who claim that we have invaded Iraq for “Oil” and/or to support our lifestyle and/or My SUV said “please violate international laws”. Whatever it is….please act now. Now is your chance to support your claim, show a single piece of circumstantial evidence. Pleaaaase.

Thank you.

[possible] Oil-names are:
George Bush
Frank Carlucci
Dick Cheney
Lewis Libby
John Ashcroft
Newt Gingrich
Francis Fukuyama
Richard Armitage
John Negroponte
Colin Powell
Condoleezza Rice
Tom Ridge
Karl Rove
Donald Rumsfeld
James Schelisger
John Yoo
William Bennett
Stephen Hadley
Zalmay Khalilzad
Jeane Kirkpatrick

Shalom. If you are not on the right side of the issues and support the international law and justice, we (the jews) should stay out of this argument. Because, you/we are biased. Poor Palestinians has not political power in USA. It is just not fair.

I will ignore you from now on. You have a stake in this discussion. Probably you packed a clean pair of underwear in your suitcase, in case Jesus comes back to Jerrusalem without a press conference in Tel Aviv.

Next you’ll be blaming the Jews for global warming.

I have some words for you: Ganif, kvetch, shlemiel.

Lying, Lying, Lying … connecting 2003 Invasions to Kuwait/1991 Gulf Events and bluring everything, so that we will never wake up and use a term called “Israel” ragarding the Motive.

3 days before Colin Powell’s speech about the Yellow Cake all British Newspapers [Guardian/Independent/Finanacial Times] (as page one News) disclosed that papers were forged, Niger Embassy in Italy were broken into (funded by Michael Ladeen).

Didn’t anybody in CIA/US Government have a 0.75 GBP to buy a British Newpaper from a newstand in 2003?

To make a counter-argument would only imply you offered any argument to begin with.

You are outside of the realm of reason and actively at battle with the world of decency.

Your post reads like something out Mein Kampf. Your ignorance and moronic behavior is noted.

Can you imagine Jews tolerating this type of criteria being applied to them? Israel has invaded Lebanon, so we need to preemptively stop them from doing it again? Jews have spied on America in numbers vastly out of proportion to their percentage in the general population, so we must preemptively exclude their access to sensitive government positions? Jews have destroyed an American warship so we must preemptively attack them to prevent them from doing this again? Yeah, right. The Jews would shriek “antisemitism!” at 130 decibels. But this is the moral justification they have given us for war! That they would never tolerate this type of moral justification themselves simply exposes them as the world’s biggest and most ethnocentric amoral hypocrites.

VNN readers need to emphatically let their anti-war liberal friends know that this war is not about oil. These liberals are perennially confused but can sometimes be swayed by solid evidence. Convince them that it’s not about oil and their number-two theory takes the stage. The American Petroleum Institute reports that the U.S. imports 60% of its oil from abroad and only 24% of that oil even comes from the Persian Gulf: Here. It has been widely reported that Iraq has the world’s second largest proven oil reserves. However, what isn’t often reported is that these reserves are only 3 – 6% of world total oil reserves. Oil reserves are geographically distributed throughout the world-from Venezuela and Nigeria to Indonesia and Norway. Also, all of this war mongering has increased, rather than decreased, the price of oil. Only after the war started did the price of oil rapidly decline: Here. Before the war mongering began, the price was headed down. Warmongering increased the price of oil by 50% per barrel. Your liberal friends need to understand this.

Jews have been front and center in advocating this war. Neocon Jew William Kristol’s “think tank,” Project for a New American Century http://www.newamericancentury.org/ began pushing for this war years before the September 11th attacks. In a 1998 letter to President Clinton, Kristol pushed for removing Saddam’s regime from power. There were 18 signatories on this letter: Elliott Abrams, Richard L. Armitage, William J. Bennett, Jeffrey Bergner, John Bolton, Paula Dobriansky, Francis ***uyama, Robert Kagan, Zalmay Khalilzad, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Peter W. Rodman, Donald Rumsfeld, William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, Paul Wolfowitz, R. James Woolsey and Robert B. Zoellick. Approximately half are Jews. Jews are 2.5% of the general American population.

Nine days after the September 11th attacks, Kristol was at it again with a new open letter to President Bush. Kristol devoted three (3) lines in this letter to Osama bin Laden, eight (8) lines to Iraq and twelve (12) lines to Israel and its enemies. There were 41 signatories on this letter: William Kristol, Richard V. Allen, Gary Bauer, Jeffrey Bell, William J. Bennett, Rudy Boshwitz, Jeffrey Bergner, Eliot Cohen, Seth Cropsey, Midge Decter, Thomas Donnelly, Nicholas Eberstadt, Hillel Fradkin, Aaron Friedberg, Francis ***uyama, Frank Gaffney, Jeffrey Gedmin, Reuel Marc Gerecht, Charles Hill, Bruce P. Jackson, Eli S. Jacobs, Michael Joyce, Donald Kagan, Robert Kagan, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Charles Krauthammer, John Lehman, Clifford May, Martin Peretz, Richard Perle, Norman Podhoretz, Stephen P. Rosen, Randy Scheunemann, Gary Schmitt, William Schneider, Jr., Richard H. Shultz, Henry Sokolski, Stephen J. Solarz, Vin Weber, Leon Wieseltier and Marshall Wittmann. Once again, half were Jews. Many of the remaining are employed by think tanks funded by Jews. Remember, Jews comprise 2.5% of the American population. This is no coincidence. Anybody who tells you it is just a coincidence is either a liar or a moron.

Are there any objections to the separation of List1 and List2. Then we will look for histric evidence of Oil/$ as the motive.

People who believe that we Invaded Iraq for Oil or Oil Related matters… get ready! Your chance to post who said what connecting the Iraq Invasion to America’s worries about oil supply and/or Oil Contracts.

The “Oil” names:
George Bush
Frank Carlucci
Dick Cheney
Lewis Libby
John Ashcroft
Newt Gingrich
Francis Fukuyama
Richard Armitage
John Negroponte
Colin Powell
Condoleezza Rice
Tom Ridge
Karl Rove
Donald Rumsfeld
James Schelisger
John Yoo
William Bennett
Stephen Hadley
Zalmay Khalilzad
Jeane Kirkpatrick

The Non-Oil Names:
Elliot Abrams
Madeleine Albright
Jeffrey Bergner
John Bolton
Paula Dobriansky
Charles Fairbanks, Jr.
Douglas Feith
David Frum
Aaron Friedberg
Richard Haass
Robert J. Loewenberg
R. James Woolsey
Frederick Kagan
Robert Kagan
Donald Kagan
Charles Krauthammer
William Kristol
Michael Ladeen
Joe Lieberman
Richard Perle
Daniel Pipes
Norman Podhoretz
Dennis Ross
Peter Rodman
William Schneider, Jr.
Stephen Solarz
Vin Weber
Paul Wolfowitz
David Wurmser
Meyrav Wurmser
Dov Zakheim
Robert Zoellick

Just try to ignore, ‘Lilya,’or whomever they may be. She has no interest learning anything’ she just wants to push her assertions and get people to bite.

I know it’s hard to ignore her because of her scorching ignorance of world history and context. It’s hard to leave unanswered her racist views, but I recommend trying, and believe she has a right to express herself; even if the logical conclusion of her ideas are abhorrent.

Please, start your own blog.