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The Making of Sonnets

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Originally broadcast on April 1, 2008.

The world is too much with us, goes the sonnet. And in fourteen lines we’re off, into the “jewel box” of poetic form. How do I love thee? Death, be not proud. My mistress eyes are nothing like the sun.

For five hundred years and more, from Petrarch and Shakespeare to Ginsburg and Seamus Heaney, the sonnet has beguiled and teased and thrilled — and informed us on the human condition.

How do they do it? Many ways. “You jerk, you didn’t call me up,” starts one.

A new anthology tells the story. This hour, On Point: the making of the sonnet.

-Tom Ashbrook

Guests:

Edward Hirsch, a poet and essayist, is co-editor (with Eavan Boland) of the Norton anthology, “The Making of a Sonnet.”

Eavan Boland, co-editor of “The Making of a Sonnet,” is a poet and the director of the creative writing program at Stanford University.

 

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Listener comments
  • For me, sonnets were always a lovely source of order. I fell in love with Shakespeare in my 8s and 9s in my grandmother’s library. In English class in high school we read his sonnets and I found I loved him just as much. In high school and in college, when my life – academic, personal, whatever – was overwhelming and out of control, I found that numbering the lines on a sheet of paper one through fourteen and struggling through some iambic pentameter and a good old abab cdcd efef gg brought some semblance of order. It was like therapy.

    Posted by Emily, on June 22nd, 2009 at 10:24 am EDT
  • Wonderful show. My I leave one of my sonnets for you – from my New England world:
    THE WINTER THERE
    When autumn came we went to see the trees
    and let the small boys slide down hills
    on burnished leaves. We smelled the winter there.
    It stalked us from the pond, and we
    were eating fallen apples when we saw
    a cluster green and fresh with Christmas pine.
    We trimmed them all with toys from many journeys
    recalling each by name. The laughter caught
    in wind and trees like billowed kites. The sky
    filled up with snow. We fed the flame a log
    and mellowed brandy in the half-filled glass
    invoking words that once were warming there.

    Across the seasons doors remain ajar.
    Our visit done, we raced back to the car.

    Posted by Mickey Coburn, on June 22nd, 2009 at 10:26 am EDT
  • Someone on your program just now read a lovely poem by a poet from Detroit about his father getting up on dark cold mornings and making a fire for him…But somehow I didn’t catch the name of the poet. I would so like to know who he was and whether the poem you read is included in the sonnet anthology.

    Posted by Constance Clark, on June 22nd, 2009 at 10:49 am EDT
  • In this era of Twitter, the encapsulated, rocket-launched emoticon-holding missive brings the modern haiku, the 140-letter, not 14-line dagger.
    Maybe in the pre-printing press age of oral literature, in Homeric times, poetry was to be sung, chanted, with sonnets as “little songs,” the stepchild of grand literature.
    But maybe not now in the age of printed words.
    I think that poems now are less verbal music and more the sequence of imagery, as one caller attributed to Shakespeare’s special strength, more imagery than song. At least, I think the way many poets read out loud is off somehow. Way, way off. Maybe modern poetry is meant to be private, encrypted meaning in very special wrapping paper. Lovers find them at their own good time. As readers of books find their choice not as an assignment but after careful perusal.
    I think poetry, even sonnets, need to aim to other generations, to other cultures, not only to those we might be courting.
    But I also think the encapsulated missive (poetry?) has special meaning for children, for pre-reading-age children. A child can be captured by the verbal music and then “unpack” the meaning over the course of life, until different layers reveal their meaning. Such poems maybe need more tum-te-tum, more sliding-down-an-icy-slope rhythm, than is currently stylish.

    Posted by Ellen Dibble, on June 22nd, 2009 at 10:53 am EDT
  • Love the show! Takes me back to my English major days, when I read this Wordsworth sonnet about sonnets, and the comfort of working within the form’s limits:

    Nuns fret not at their convent’s narrow room;
    And hermits are contented with their cells;
    And students with their pensive citadels;
    Maids at the wheel, the weaver at his loom,
    Sit blithe and happy; bees that soar for bloom,
    High as the highest Peak of Furness-fells,
    Will murmur by the hour in foxglove bells:
    In truth the prison, unto which we doom
    Ourselves, no prison is: and hence for me,
    In sundry moods, ’twas pastime to be bound
    Within the Sonnet’s scanty plot of ground;
    Pleased if some Souls (for such there needs must be)
    Who have felt the weight of too much liberty,
    Should find brief solace there, as I have found.

    Posted by Colleen Carney, on June 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 am EDT
  • I have never been interested in sonnets before but, I found my summer reading.

    I put a copy on reserve at the library and hope to have it in my hands soon.

    Though not a sonnet, when I first read the words: ‘Nay, answer me: stand, and unfold yourself.’ a new world so heightened and raw became alive to me.

    Add to that the track by E.E. Cummings, and I’m hooked.

    Posted by frederic C., on June 22nd, 2009 at 12:18 pm EDT
  • To Constance Clark: The poem is “Those Winter Sundays” by Robert Hayden, always one of my favorites. You can see it at

    http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/those-winter-sundays/

    A great show. I was surprised nobody mentioned Christopher Marlowe’s justly famous description of the sonnet as “infinity in a little room.” Best ever. Says everything the commentators were saying, but in 5 words. Talk about compression. And it would be nice if Spenser had been given his due credit for bringing the sonnet into English. But there’s no question that Shakespeare is still the mountaintop every sonneteer must scale.

    My personal favorites: Shakespeare’s Nos. 29 and 73; Spenser’s No. 1 from The Amoretti; Wordsworth’s “Surprised by Joy,”; and, of course, Shelley’s “Ozymandias.”

    Posted by Alan Baragona, on June 22nd, 2009 at 12:36 pm EDT
  • Thanks for your terrific show, which I was listening to while driving in my car. Like Constance, I also missed the name of the Detroit poet, whose sonnet about his father was read aloud. Can you please tell me his name and where I can find the sonnet? Many thanks, Geri Shaw

    Posted by geri shaw, on June 22nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm EDT
  • Heard part of the show on my lunch break and will go back and listen to the rest. In the meantime, here is a sonnet that has always impressed me. “The Silken Tent” by Robert Frost. The entire sonnet is one sentence.

    She is as in a field a silken tent
    At midday when the sunny summer breeze
    Has dried the dew and all its ropes relent,
    So that in guys it gently sways at ease,
    And its supporting central cedar pole,
    That is its pinnacle to heavenward
    And signifies the sureness of the soul,
    Seems to owe naught to any single cord,
    But strictly held by none, is loosely bound
    By countless silken ties of love and thought
    To everything on earth the compass round,
    And only by one’s going slightly taut
    In the capriciousness of summer air
    Is of the slightest bondage made aware.

    Posted by Lou Parker, on June 22nd, 2009 at 6:24 pm EDT
  • Tom – A fantastic show!

    Despite this environment of so many important news stories that need to be explored and aired out (and you do so well), could I request that you devote one show a month to poetry?

    So very rare and so very special, to hear on the radio.

    Thank you very much!

    Posted by Alexander, on June 22nd, 2009 at 8:59 pm EDT
  • Thank you to Colleen Carney for posting the Wordsworth sonnet. I’d never seen it before, it’s wonderful!

    Posted by BC Armstrong, on June 22nd, 2009 at 9:19 pm EDT
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  • I’m certain you cannot post the full text of the poems on this site because of copyright complications. However, perhaps a list of the poems read on the program. I hear several I liked, but don’t know who wrote them or their titles. I’d like to look them up.

    Posted by Dylan, on June 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am EDT
  • Quincy Bay

    Yes, I’ve known
    Her sloping shoulders
    Rocky shores and
    sandy sholes;
    Her watery hips
    Deep and swift
    or slow and
    ebbing;
    Known the
    curve of her
    back and fathomed
    her willowy depths;
    known as anyone who long has
    walked this shore may know.

    Posted by Bob, on June 24th, 2009 at 8:56 am EDT
  • I am now going to follow any programs on art, history, poetry, literature, music – I was dumbstruck by the
    beauty of your show on The Sonnet – Congratulations

    Please do more !!!!!!!!

    Posted by madeleine gansevoort, on June 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pm EDT
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