Is Cheney, Limbaugh, Gingrich et al staying on their message as the party of no? What are they saying about the President’s speech, tour and behavior? I’ve not heard much from them? What’s up?

There letting there pupils speak for them, tool bag limbaugh said obama speech was like al queda, a chick from the AEI was on talk of the nation yesterday talking about how bad obama speech was and not using terrorist in his speech. Which makes no sense why they have her on to gauge Muslim/arab reaction since the AEI would be the last group to be able to do this.

He let her go on about the cheney talking points on the show lucky the other guess pointed out that obama speech was no way geared towards AEI. Not to sure about Gingrich hes been back tracking about calling obama judge pick a racist.

I always thought why is the kkk not on a terrorist list/group, since they advocate fear to accomplish there task.

Let’s not forget about the rhetoric that precipitated an anti abortion terrorist to act.

Rhetoric that gives people with little control over the events of their own lives a sense of meaning and purpose.

Thus they fixate on the mistaken notion that abortion is murder and then the problems in their lives are external. They should focus on their own lives not the people who are vulnerable during a time of a medical crisis.

Since when a human becomes an individual is a philosophical/religious question and not one that can be objectively determined, it is the woman’s god given right to decide the course of her pregnancy.

Fred…does the father have any “god given” rights?

The U.S. lost more than 500,000 jobs in May. That’s not the “hope and change” I was expecting to see.

How does an airliner vanish into thin air? Also, what is going on with the investigation, first they say they found debris from the plane and fuel on the surface of the ocean…..now today they are saying that the debris was not from the plane….??? I think there are problems with the coordination between the Brazillians and the French investigators…hopefully the NTSB will be able to make something of this. We are good at that!

Joe do you have any understanding of how basic economics works? How recessions work and how they the unemployment is always lagging behind when the economy recovers.

The other thing you forgot to mention is that this current
recession and banking fiasco happened on Bush’s watch.
His government was in charge and spent billions on the Iraq war while giving away billions in tax cuts.
If you want to be partisan that’s fine, but do a little research. This economic mess is all on Bush.

Now if you want to discuss how the Obama administration is handling the crisis that’s something I can get into.

The 10% unemployment figures are on mostly on Bush.

What is different about Obama’s approach to foreign issues, other than his tone and rhetoric? Are his policies really that different from previous American Presidents?

I agree with the caller, Tony Blankly is throwing mud where it doesn’t need to be thrown and it sounds like tit for tat childish crap.

Brazillian media has spent more time and energy talking about the one Black Box in six days than US Media has ever discussed the Black Boxes of four airlines in 8.5 years.

Is there something wrong here?

I agree with President Obama. The U.S. DOES need to apologize for our past foreign policy behavior, especially the last 8 years. I finally have a little hope that we, the U.N., will finally push Israel to remove their illegal settlements in the West Bank and pull back to the Green line as required by the Oslo agreement. The U.S. has always supported Israel no matter what. I am willing to support Israel’s security, but only after they comply with decades old U.N. resolutions. Hamas will have no excuse for shelling Israel if there are no settlements (their current reason) and the Palestinian people can run their own lives.

Please stop using the Anti-Choice rhetorical term “abortion doctor.” Dr. Tiller was an Obstetrician and Gynocologist. Give him the respect of using his proper title.

How can we talk about the reasons of 9/11 without actually wanting to know anything about it. (If 9/11 ever happened to way they told us it did)

Even my kid can figure this out.

Remember the five-page long Suicide Mission Statement that was found in the trunks of rental cars on 9/11.

Where is that mission statement, the entire five pages? John Ashcroft’s dog ate it?

To judge Presedent Obama’s words by our standerds is tipical of the Bush era crowd. They should listen to the speach with the ears of the people it is intended for and their culture. Aribic and Muslim people love humility. Of corse the can’t do that, as they didn’t hear anything but there own voices for years.

I would find Tony Blankley’s comments to be laughable if they weren’t so pernicious. Devout pessimism? Looking in “horror” at the prospect of a more European-style system in the US? It seems to me that “devout pessimism” is no less than a formula for perpetual war, and the misery of a society without a social safety net is exactly where his “horror” would lead us.

Well said Jack (on Dr. Tiller).

Listening to the experts and the callers all week, one would get the impression that GM can’t sell any vehicles, that nobody wants what they’re making.
That is simply untrue. The April 2009 U.S. sales figures from Reuters for cars and light trucks show that GM, even with the black cloud looming over them, continues to sell significantly more vehicles than anybody else. The top 5 manufacturer’s U.S. market share, currently, in round numbers, is GM 21%, Ford 16%, Toyota 16%, Honda 12%, and Chrysler 9 %. That may surprise a lot of people.

People like Bill O’Rilley and the “Pro Life” movement are the reason that the doctor in Kansas was murdered. The hate spewed by the right has spawned an extreme fringe that kills without remorse in the name of justice. Until abortion is rendered unlawful, doctors should be allowed to perform their health services.

Tony Blankley works for the Washington Times, which has never made a profit and is heavily subsidized by the right wing religious eccentric, Rev. Moonie, who had himself crowned king of his strange little world in the Senate office building.
Even Rush Limbaugh doesn’t need the right wing handouts any more.
Why do the Washington Villagers consider Tony a voice worth hearing when his main outlet is subsidized by the Unification Church?
Why don’t you get Tony on to talk about Rev. Moon’s strange religious ideas?
That would be something real.
You are tilting the discourse in a weird direction by presenting someone like Tony as mainstream.

What we’ve seen this week is evidence of what I expected last fall during the election: That the Obama Administration would be the most disastrous in American history.

GM: Obama’s abandonment of laws that put the rights of bond holders above those of groups like unions will raise the cost of capital for business since investors will no longer have confidence that their rights will be protected by law. There will be a similar effect for share-holders, making it more difficult to achieve the growth necessary to work our way out of the current economic mess. Obama’s solution is part of the problem.

Expectation that Obama would do something like this may have played a significant role in bringing on the current financial mess. Was it entirely a coincidence that the recession, which had been very mild for over a year, turned into a near depression at exactly the time it became obvious that Obama would win the election?

There is a deeper problem here too: The destruction of wealth, estimated at around $50 trillion during this crisis, makes people more dependent on government and contributes to acceptance of greater government power. Since that is Obama’s clear objective, his reluctance to participate in last fall’s effort to find a solution for the financial crisis needs to be reconsidered. Perhaps he wanted, and still wants, the crisis to get worse.

Obama’s speech to the Muslim world: The pink elephant in the room that no-one wants to acknowledge is that just because the US isn’t at war with Islam, Islam may be at war with the US and the West in general. Israel is described as the “little Satan/near enemy” because it is the first target of that war. America is the “great Satan/distant enemy”, i.e., the ultimate target of that war.

When Obama apologizes for US efforts to defend itself he is paralleling the denunciations hurled at Israel for that country’s efforts to defend itself. I didn’t hear a call from Obama for the Muslim world to apologize to the rest of humanity for the jihad that is now in its fifteenth century. How do we defend ourselves against the onslaught if we consider doing so an affront to Muslims? Here, too, Obama’s solution is part of the problem.

Being “forceful with Israel” to endorse a two-state solution to the conflict with the Palestinians when a state is not their ultimate objective makes no sense; gaining the Palestinians’ acceptance of a two-state solution would be far more useful. But by agreeing to the legitimacy of Israel, the Palestinians would be abandoning the jihad against the West. A real solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict thus depends on the Muslim world’s abandoning the jihad, but Obama hasn’t even suggested this.

Blankley repeated, unchallenged, the oft-stated misrepresentation of US and European employment statistics. The US measures employment differently from the Europeans. For example, we do not include prisoners in our statistics. If we did our numbers would be a point or two higher. We also do not include discouraged or underemployed workers here.

A year ago, while the US still had high employment both the US and France employment numbers were nearly the same (France’s numbers were a little better than ours)… about 87% using equivalent methods of measurement.

Our politicians use counting methods that yield the smallest possible unemployment results. That is a disservice to our workers because it tends to cause them to believe that the problems they experience are personal failings on their part – rather than systemic.

tony was one of the worst guess ever, sounded like a parrot repeating the same old garbage. But it does show the right is on the wrong side of things.

the guy from paris seem far better informed

Fred…does the father have any “god given” rights?

Posted by Rachel, on June 5th, 2009 at 9:00 am EDT
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Sure, marriage is a partnership. They should be on the same page right? But ultimately the woman is no longer by law property of the man and unless and until an individual emerges from the mother, the father’s wishes cannot trump the woman’s choice.

just yesterday one of the leaders in the pro-life movement she put online the addresses and information about the other 2 doctors who perform what Dr. Tiller did for any zealot whose may wish to find the others.

David D., the correct spelling is SPEECH, not speach. In addition, it’s TYPICAL, not tipical. Just another prime example why America needs a school voucher program.

joe found this for u
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104869163

http://xkcd.com/326/

its shows when someone cannot counter a point they go to correcting errors in the writing instead of making a point(valid or not) against it since they cant.

Geoff Nunberg talks about extractly what u are trying to do u should listen to it. it may help

It was refreshing to hear Chris Dickey make the connection between U.S. support for Israel and its support for the Egyptian and Saudi governments, but I see a much clearer line to the the support for all 3 governments and the Israel-Palestine conflict than he articulated. They are all very different cases but there are strong connections. In other words, the support for any of the governments the U.S. has been supporting in the Middle East is indirect support for Israel. If we stopped supporting the government of Egypt, for instance, they would almost certainly elect an openly anti-Israeli government very quickly. This simply reflects the real experience of their population as they have watched the Israeli government insult, subjugate, steal from and murder their Palestinian brother & sister Arabs for 60 years.

It was disappointing to hear Jack Beatty bring up the specter of 9/11 and separate U.S. aid to the different nations as though they aren’t connected, as though it doesn’t reflect a total Mideast policy; of course it does. He criticized U.S. support for Egypt since it’s essentially a dictatorship. The Bush admin proved what other U.S. administrations had figured out beforehand, that when you encourage and facilitate free elections in the Middle East, the winners will almost always be anti-Israeli and often anti-American as well. This may well sound frightening to many, but what happened with the 9/11 attacks is that the frustration and anger with U.S. and Israeli policies in the region were forced underground over so many years, and finally found the light of day at our World Trade Towers.

The other major part of U.S. Mideast policy is to support nations that are friendly to American business interests in the Mideast, which are huge. This is in large part the reason for U.S. support for Saudi Arabia and this is the reason why the U.S. doesn’t want anti-American governments in place. This may be obvious to some Americans but many seem oblivious.

The U.S. has to begin to deal honestly in the Middle East. There are many tough questions to ask and decisions to make. Obama has made a good start for that but he and we have a long way to go.

Felipe, re: the four black boxes the media is not talking about. I assume you mean 9/11, to which I would suggest that we know how and why those airliners flew into those buildings. IMHO, no assertions that 9/11 was an inside job should be made without an adequate supply of tin foil close at hand…

Name the President who used extraordinary rendition, states secret privilege, earmarks, ambassador posts to campaign fundraisers, unwinable war, and numerous other less-than-ethical programs and policies. Answer: Mr. Sunshine and Change himself. The more things change the less they change.

I don’t blame the white race or all women when some crazy nutjob does something crazy like killing someone. I blame the crazy.

We are saddened by the death of Dr. Tiller, but we disagree completely with what he did and we also mourn for the thousands of unborn children that he slaughtered: decapitated, dismembered, and burned alive. These were our brothers and sisters, and he slaughtered them.

Mark, yes tin-foil and don’t forget paper clips; because you can’t make a anti-thought ray hat without paperclips to ground it.

And the nutters lathering their chins and keyboards fantasizing about and ascribing individuality to medical waste. Of course if you hear about or see images of aborted tissue you have strong primal feelings that can overwhelm your rational mind.

There are tons of mentally disturbed folk out in the world and they are not all pushed to act. Would Tiller’s killer have fixated on his victim if his emotions weren’t being played on by people keeping the embers of the emotional/reactionary* right wing base stoked?

*As opposed to the educated ideological conservatives.

Joe B, you must have a PhD in revisionist history. You are the master of doing just that on every topic that you post on. Seriously, you really good at it.

You really think that this recession, job loss, and destruction of the middle class began in January when Obama was elected? If you do, well it really is just hopeless with you. Do a real bit of history research, and start with Reagan and his policies–the fallout of which are actually reaching their peak right now.

Tom:, your program is great, congratulations. The only thing is that,Still; I can’t believe that there are people that think that the terrorist attack on the Trade Center was done and engineered outside the U.S., they are wrong more half the world knows who did it, and who were involved in. So, I hope Pres. Obama bring the guilty to trial. So, Obama has done a great service to the Muslim and Jewish people. People in the U.S. should know that The U.S.A. send every year between 1.0 to 1.3 billions dollars annualy to Israel, so they can threaten Palestinians and keeping under siege. If (they)US do the same to Palestine, there will be a balance in armament. Regular Jewish people and Palestinians dont want to fight, but Governments want them to fight, specially those factories that belong to Americans like, Dick Cheney owner of the biggest producer of armaments, missiles, uniforms and one of the biggest contractors for Irak and a main pusher of tha war to Agfanistan and Irak. If you wants proof just watch the report and documentary called: “WHY WE FIGHT”, so about stupidity, Bush and Cheney are 20 to 50 times worst. So, you listeners read, travel to the Muslim countries, visit them here in the U.S. many muslims are wonderful and loving people, they are children of God like you, and you and me. Real Christians don’t kill 250,000 children under the age of 5 (Afgans and irakies) as collateral damage, except those christians leaders that go to church every Sunday and Not obey the commandements of God. “THOU SHALL NOT KILL” (Exodus 20:13) Get informed first then judge. Tks. incarau.

off topic but at least both dems and republicans has didnt get busted for this
or at least not at once.

Berlusconi fury over naked photos

El Pais said the photos showed an uninhibited atmosphere at the villa
Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi has reacted angrily to the publication in Spain of photographs showing topless women and a naked man at his villa.

He has threatened to sue Spain’s El Pais newspaper, calling the photos an invasion of privacy.

The photos – banned in Italy on privacy grounds – were taken from outside Mr Berlusconi’s villa in Sardinia during a party for a Czech delegation.

He also faces a probe for using state aircraft to fly guests to Sardinia.

The prime minister is said to have used Italian aircraft to ferry guests to and from Villa Certosa, “almost every weekend” between the summer of 2007 and January of this year, El Pais reports.

Mr Berlusconi is being investigated for misuse of public funds, and confirmed on Thursday that he had been formally placed under investigation by prosecutors.

But he said the probe would be “swiftly shelved”, insisting he was allowed to transport “people he needs” for security reasons.

Mystery man

Under the headline “The pictures vetoed by Berlusconi”, El Pais on Friday published five photos shot by photographer Antonello Zappadu from outside the gates of the Berlusconi villa.

In the first, the face of the Italian prime minister – recently embroiled in a public row over his friendship with an 18-year-old model – can be clearly seen. He is accompanied by several women, with the face of one of them pixelated by the photographer and the others obscured by an awning.

These are innocent photos, there’s no scandal but this is a violation of privacy and a scandalous aggression

Silvio Berlusconi
Italian Prime Minister

Defiant Berlusconi calm amid storm
El Pais said that, to protect their identities, Mr Zappadu had pixelated the faces of all those photographed – with the exception of Mr Berlusconi.

The second photograph shows two topless women, one standing and one lying on a sun lounger in the Sardinian sunshine. The woman standing is wearing nothing except a skimpy set of “thong” bikini briefs.

But the third picture is the most stark, showing a fully naked man leaning over the edge of a swimming pool.

El Pais said the pictures were examples of the approximately 300 which were blocked from publication in Italy at the weekend at Mr Berlusconi’s request.

Some of the photos were reportedly taken during a party held at the villa for a visiting Czech delegation under the leadership of former Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek.

El Pais said it was unable to confirm whether the picture of the naked man it published was that of Mr Topolanek. Mr Berlusconi’s lawyer has previously said such a photo existed.

Other photographs reportedly include scenes of parties attended by several young women, including the 18-year-old model Noemi Letizia.

‘Nothing spicy’

Mr Berlusconi has been under pressure to explain his relationship with Ms Letizia since his wife, Veronica Lario, said last month she was divorcing him after he had attended her 18th birthday party and gave her an expensive necklace. He has denied having an affair with her.

Ms Letizia was among the guests at Mr Berlusconi’s last new year’s party
Mr Berlusconi denounced the paparazzi on Friday for violating his privacy and “scandalous aggression”, saying the photographs were entirely “innocent”.

When asked by Italian state-run Rai radio why there had been several naked women at his villa, he replied: “Do you take a shower dressed?”

“These girls were bathing in a whirlpool bath inside a private home, and they were assaulted in a scandalous way.

“These are innocent photos, there’s no scandal but this is a violation of privacy and a scandalous aggression.

The 72-year-old also repeated that there had been nothing “spicy” in his relations with Ms Letizia and that he would resign “the next minute” if proved otherwise.

His lawyer, Niccolo Ghedini, described the photographs as having “originated in a crime”, adding: “Who buys them anywhere in the world is committing a crime, something which should have been clear to El Pais’ journalists,” he said.

‘Petty’

According to reports, prosecutors in Rome also found several pictures taken at Sardinia’s Olbia airport before and after the parties.

Mr Berlusconi said the accusations were timed to coincide with the election
They allegedly showed Mr Berlusconi’s favourite singer, Mariano Apicella, his assistant, and an unidentified woman getting off the prime minister’s official plane in May last year.

Prosecutors were forced to open an investigation into Mr Berlusconi’s use of public assets after a complaint was filed by a consumer association, Codacons.

“It means nothing. It will be shelved very soon,” Berlusconi told a Milan television station via phone on Thursday.

“There is a rule, passed by the prime minister’s office, that allows the prime minister, when he uses state planes for reasons of security, to take with him people he feels he needs at no cost,” he said.

However, the newspaper La Stampa has said the regulation did not take effect until August, three months after the airport pictures.

Mr Berlusconi said he had entertained several heads of state and government – including Mr Topolanek – at his villa in Sardinia, and had “offered all that I receive from them, including shows with artistes”.

“But this is not a burden on the [Italian] state,” he added.

The prime minister called the accusations “petty” and suggested they had been timed to coincide with this week’s European Parliament elections. Italians are set to vote on Saturday and Sunday.

if u dont know who the p.m. is, he got busted for curuption charges, but of a anti roma national party, who gaffles more than VP Joe B

he got busted for corruption charges the first time he was PM, and is a part of a anti roma national party, who gaffles more than VP Joe B

Berlusconi is a perv. and the photographs are not an invasion of privacy rather they may be the best hope for the underage girls hopelessly caught in sway of uber powerful men.

On Monday, Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad shot two U.S. Army soldiers outside a recruiting office in Little Rock, Arkansas killing one soldier. That fact was not brought up in the hour long discussion, but you did play audio from a lame joke by Conan O’Brien. Pathetic commentary on your part On Point.

Mayor Bloomberg on Transparency – April 9, 2009
I am a big believer in the idea that transparency in government makes for good government. Transparency allowed the public to see exactly how other elected officials are performing and hold them accountable for results.

May 12, 2009
When it comes to 9/11 and the Construction of Freedom Towers, Mayor Bloomberg conducted a secret meeting in his Gracie Mansion between Larry Silverstein and the Port Authority.

The design that was picked got about 1.6% of the votes. Almost all parties in the design selection committee did not want this current design, other than Larry Silverstein and the Architect.

Transparency double-speak…anthing to do with 9/11? ….Shhhhhisss, quiet.

Egypt spends more on security services than it does on heath care? Is Jack serious?! Really Jack? Really?

What about the US? How about if the US devoted half a trillion to health care every years (that amount spent on our military not including recent foreign wars). We could put in place the single payer system that we so desperately need.

Jack, I’m usually in agreement but to single out the military expenditures vs. health care of any country other than the US is just pure hypocrisy.

Greenspan was made a semi-god by the “corporate-media” and look where he took us!

Now is Bernanki, Geitner, Summer: The Divine trinity!
“too big to fail” is the new mantram.CEO’S laughing their way to the bank…

The scam continues,is America a country of imbeciles???
Turn off the TV and think!
It’s the system, stupid!

Wake-up People!!

I was listening in the car last night to Tom’s show. I feel compelled to respond to one Ahmed from Montreal who, as an intro to his predictable litany of Islamic lies and conspiracy theories, has the audacity to claim that if an infidel like me were to have read the Koran (which I have, or at least enough of it) I would realize that Sharia law is fair and favorable for women. How can you come on to an international radio show and spout off such blatant lies and expect to have any credibility? Perhaps would any woman in the audience here care to back up Ahmed’s claim that stonings for adultery, female genital mutilations, biased inheritance laws, the burqua, four men required to refute a rape accusation (not conviction, but accusation), requiring a husband’s permission to leave the house…and on and on and on. Anyone want to challenge me that this is actually good for women?

Please, no one gets the god-treatment from the media more than our current president. The guy gets away with flip-flopping, hypocrisy, contradictions, and “misstatements” without question or much attention. It makes one wonder if the white-dominated media feels they have to treat him with kid gloves or risk being labeled as racist.

When is somebody going to ask this guy a tough question or note how much worse everything is getting?

I agree with you 100% Jeff. This president is bankrupting the country, taking over the banks and auto companies, printing money at will, wanting to negotiate with the Taliban, and all the Washington press corps (the Obama press corps) can do is stand up and applaud.

Don’t pay too much attention to Ahmed’s passionate statement. He did not mean anything in a negative way.

But here is the real issue…you cannot address cultural (not necessarily religious) differences by bombing people while taking their land away.

Let us just learn to leave other cultures alone, and then let’s develop transfer of knowledge and experience. Trust me, we have perhaps more to learn from them than what we can teach them.

Let’s keep our guns in our pants; and not be fooled by segments of our society which makes money everytime the security code is “orange”.

I aggree with Brianna’s assesment.

I cannot find a single country in which the younger majority wants to be ruled by a religious minority.

But, the moment an outside force barges in to their cultural harmony which is transforming everyday, we mess up the balance and screw up the trend.

We have to be consistent and be on the right side of the issues “all the time”. But if we support injustice and illegal positions in the Middle East, we give the fanatic religious right to say “we told you so”.

“We have to be consistent and be on the right side of the issues “all the time”. But if we support injustice and illegal positions in the Middle East, we give the fanatic religious right to say “we told you so”.”

Very clever Dianna, nice word play. I have to say I am amazed at the over simplification of a region that has complex issues.

Diann and brianna seem to me to be saying that the way to solve the problems in the Middle East is to be on the right side of issues which is code for being against Israel and for any Arab agenda. Of course there is Iran and Turkey as well as a host of other Muslim nations in the area as well that are being included in this.

To have any hint of supporting the fanatics or Sharia law is insane. Read a little history and you will see that the region around the Middle East is one of turmoil and power grabs. To avoid knowing this history on even a basic level is showing more of ones ignorance then anything else.

For those of you who want to support these lovely regimes such as the Saudis, remember they have public executions and behead woman for crimes such a adultery. Homosexuality is also a death sentence and slavery seems to be legal.

If you want to deal with the Taliban or any extremist like them I would like to point out that Diann and brianna if you lived in any of these countries you would already on their hit list as your women who are speaking out. In the Swat valley you tow would have been publicly canned or worse, stoned to death.

You can’t deal with these people, they are not interested in dealing. We can make guarded agreements but that’s about it in my view.

Trust you? What are you a used car saleswoman? We have more to learn from them then they from us?

Who are they? Do mean moderate Muslims or are you talking about the conservatives?

Or is it the Shia or the Sunni? Is it the mullahs of Iran or the Royal family of Saudi Arabia? Who are they (them)?

I just don’t want to talk about and hear about what people believe in Muslim Countries. Actually the Muslim Countries in the Middle East.

Enough is enough. We are America. If we do talk about them, somehow it is always in the context of cultural war. There are more muslims in Bangladesh or Philipines than all the muslim’s combined in the middle east. And we hardly ever talk about their religion.

That’s why we are biased. We cannot keep our dirty fingers out of their traditions and cultures and religion. If there were no “influence”, whould we ever bother to do that. I wonder!

This Putney guy is expressing his opinion about war/peace issues in the Middle East. He should stay out of it. Period. He sounds like a Dutch Settler and Farm Owner in Africa, but residing in Europe. And he expects us to believe that he is a credible person to talk about human rights during during pre-Mandella era in South Africa. Please go away!

dianna g, I guessed I touched a nerve. Go away, why is this your forum, do you own WBUR and are you in charge of the opinions? Guess not. Your not happy with my opinion that’s fine with me. You have no right to tell me to go away. I asked a question that you seem unable to answer or are incapable of forming an educated response to other than calling me silly names. Your showing your true colors however, your obviously a demigod who is not interested in any debate. Your agenda is to shut me or anyone who questions your views down, period.

I wont go away. Deal with it.

If you wrote what these comments on a blog in Saudi Arabia and were caught you would be a arrested. Chew on that Middle East expert.

dianna g the interesting thing is that you seem to lack the ability to understand context. I’m not adverse to Muslim culture, did I say anything negative about it except that I don’t like Sharia law.

I asked you a question pointing to the vastness of the religion. Of course you only see my comments in light of your narrow vision. You think for some reason I’m oppressing the people of Egypt and Saudi Arabia (silly comment on me being like a Dutch Settler and Farm Owner in Africa). I say their governments are doing that. What my views have to do being a farmer in South Africa, I assume that’s the area your alluding to as Africa is a very large continent, but who knows you seem to lump everything together. Or are you also talking about Zimbabwe.

By the way what European language do they speak in Mozambique? French or Portuguese? Do they speak Swahili there?

Putney

You are being a kuku here. The lady is trying to make a point by giving an example from South Africa and then you distort the subject by expanding on the example.

This a classic Defending The State of Israel B.S. Just divert the attention from the main subject, until the other side gets sleepy or has something else to do.

The point is: due to your heritage/religion/family, you are a biased party in the Middle East Conflict. This rule applies to whoever defends Israel and have immigrated from Eastern Europe just because you belong to a certain religion. This does not mean you are bad person or do not have good values in your family. We love you, but you should not defend Israel like there is no tomorrow.

Understood?

Lilya your wrong as usual and your rules mean nothing.
I was defending Israel, I was commenting on statement about different Muslim countries and the US. If you want to include Israel in ever comment I make go right ahead.
However not being able to see distinctions in the vastness of geopolitics is a fools game.

These are comments and opinions, you can agree or disagree, love has nothing to do with it nor is me being a bad or good person. If I get personal it’s because it warrants it. People make these sweeping statements about Muslims and their faith without even knowing the differences between Suni and Shia or Turks, Persians, Arabs or the Turkmen people. I think one should know who and what these people are. I think one should know that not all Muslims live by sharia law.

That was my point(s) not Israel. I used South Africa as an example as dianna compared me to the Dutch settlers of this region, the Boer’s. dianna for some reason did not know or care that Africa is a huge continent and that the Boer’s were from one region in the south.

Let me get this straight–if someone believes that abortion is morally repugnant, they are not allowed to criticize someone who carries out these acts with harsh language? Mr. Ashbrook’s playing of the Bill O’Reilly comments suggested (quite strongly) that Mr. O’Reilly is responsible for Dr. Tiller’s death.

I have heard harsh things said about President Bush on this program. If President Bush were to be assassinated, should we therefore hold Mr. Ashbrook, Mr. Beatty, et al. personally responsible for creating a “culture of hate” that led to his death?

The caller’s point on this issue was dead on. The left (NPR included) have used this heinous act to paint the entire pro-life community as extremists. I guess I was hoping that Mr. Ashbrook was above this.