
Bullet strikes are seen in one of the doors to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., after a shooting left a security officer dead and the gunman wounded on Thursday, June 11, 2009. (AP)
News all over this week. In Iran, a clamor for change as voters pour into the polls. In Detroit, Italy’s Fiat now owns Chrysler. On Wall Street, the big money guys squirm at the idea of executive pay curbs.
In Green Bay, Wisconsin, President Obama says it’s now-or-never time for health care reform. In Bermuda and the Pacific islands of Palau, Guantanamo prisoners are moving in.
And in Washington, a lone shooter opens fire at the Holocaust Museum — and sparks wider concern over homegrown terrorism.
This hour, On Point: Our weekly news roundtable goes behind the headlines.
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-Tom Ashbrook
Guests:
Joining us from Chicago is Laura Washington, columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times and a professor at DePaul University in Chicago.
From New York we’re joined by Jim Ellis, assistant managing editor at BusinessWeek.
Jack Beatty, On Point news analyst and senior editor at The Atlantic.
Tags: Economy, politics, week in the news












Thats was sad what happen at the museum, did they find any reason behind it or why that day?
also can u talk about the cop in oakland Cali who shoot a unarmed, handcuffed, black man on the ground face down while others cops heard him down that was video recorded?
Last thing i heard he didnt want to give a statment and than went out of state due to threats and than in protective custody.
As for pay czar it saddens me that obama fell to pressure from the banks instead of the 500k for people who borrowed they can get whatever they want with the shareholders vote(30 pages to go though most the time).
As for my bank u took tarp money is paying it back not cause of some moral reason but to not get caught in the restrictions that are coming, obama gave that speech about he hoped they learned from the crisis that happen, nope we had a floor meeting on finding ways to take over the weak or fail on, new innovation to make more money and expanding into even more areas, and increasing leverage.
The stress test that was done for my bank was 5% capital to hold for reserve where ours was like 12%. these banks are now starting to buy out the ones that didnt and grow and grow so the next it happens these banks will be even larger and have more power.
It seems Tim G as i look at it needs to go.
Posted by Mike, on June 12th, 2009 at 8:17 am UTCMike the killer was an 88 year old white supremacist with a 50 year history of spewing hate. He had been arrested numerous times and has served prison time for piloting violent criminal acts against the US government.
Enough said about this vile excuse for a human being.
Posted by Putney Swope, on June 12th, 2009 at 8:37 am UTCI look forward to hearing a repeat of Jack’s historical overview of anti-semitism in this country as he did so well when a caller speculated that the economic meltdown was a conspiracy of the Jewish banker “cabal.”
Between the economic meltdown, Madoff, Obama in the White House and Sotomayer, a small number of people are looking (again) to blame Jews, blacks, Puerto Ricans, and recent immigrants in general for all of their ills.
Posted by Richard, on June 12th, 2009 at 8:42 am UTCHate crimes up post inauguration.
Unfortunate for the victims, but hopefully it will shake out perps from under their rocks.
Posted by frederic C., on June 12th, 2009 at 8:58 am UTCSorry for the typo…
He had been arrested numerous times and has served prison time for piloting violent criminal acts against the US government.
Should read: He had been arrested numerous times and has served prison time for plotting violent criminal acts against the US government.
Posted by Putney Swope, on June 12th, 2009 at 9:00 am UTCHi Tom–Always look forward to your program. Re the shooting at the Holocaust Museum, I haven’t heard or read a single comment re the gun control aspect of this occurrence. How could anyone walk into the Museum WITH A LOADED RIFLE???? (What is the security situation there? E.g., are there no metal detectors etc. to walk through?). When will this country ever learn? I hope those “Supremes” who support guns everywhere will consider this aspect of this week’s terrible tragedy. I understand security guard who died had opened the door for von Brunn! What a difference between those two men!
Posted by Joyce Cummings, on June 12th, 2009 at 9:07 am UTCThanks, Tom (from Ames IA)
In his inaugural address the president suggested that the time had come to “put away childish things”, and in keeping with this precept he has in recent months addressed the public with thoughtful reasoned arguments, treating us as adults who need to be able to think our way through the complicated issues we face these days. I’m struck by the contrast with the current rhetorical style favored by the Republican party, who seem to be convinced the electorate are made up of a bunch of unruly 11 year old boys who’d rather not have to figure things out for themselves because it’s just too hard. Rush Limbaugh has made a nice living out of this of course, but I’m thinking more of mainstream politicians. A case in point: after watching President Obama clearly explain yesterday why we need health care reform, minority leader Boehner appeared on TV to say that this would be the equivalent of a medical DMV. No refutation, no reasoning, no Republican health plan, just DMV. We are supposed to have, and need, a 2 party system in this country, and I can’t help but feel shortchanged by the opposition at the moment. Or can it really be that they simply don’t have any ideas, because if that’s the case then their opposition veers from loyal to disloyal, putting the country at risk in an attempt to maintain their relevance.
- Dan
Posted by Dad, on June 12th, 2009 at 9:09 am UTCOn one hand, executive compensation has been increasingly obscene in recent decades. On the other hand, it is perfectly correct that most methods of government regulation of private compensation are complicated and very difficult to implement.
Why isn’t anyone talking about restoring the progressivity of our income tax system? In the 1950s – a time of rapid economic growth and general prosperity in the USA – the maximum individual income tax rate was vastly higher than it has been since the Reagan revolution ushered in the new inequality. In 1950 Charles E. Wilson, the CEO of General Motors who was one of the highest-paid corporate executives in America, earned $586,100 – and paid $430,350 in taxes (according to Malcolm Gladwell in the New Yorker, 8/28/2006). Returning to this kind of progressivity would also deal with the obscene compensation of entertainment stars and athletic stars, in addition to that of Wall Street executives.
Posted by Paul Spagnoli, on June 12th, 2009 at 9:20 am UTCI support single payer health care. When I debate anti-single payer, I ask them if they are against socialize public educations. They stop dead in their tracks. I think we need to stress the simple fact is public educations is socialize education. Should we get ride of public educations? Not everyone uses public educations, but we all pay taxes to support it.
Posted by Margie, on June 12th, 2009 at 9:26 am UTCPaul while I am all in favor of more progressive tax system going back to the times when one paid that much in taxes is way to regressive. That’s over 70% in taxes.
It will never fly.
Posted by Putney Swope, on June 12th, 2009 at 9:29 am UTCGov’t run insurance?? How well has Medicare worked out? Hundreds of millions in fraud every year. Abuse everywhere. Incompetent bureaucrats in charge of *YOUR* health.
And what happens when not enough is paid in to cover this fraud? Our taxes will be raised AGAIN. Even people who elect for private coverage will be taxed to pay for the public system. How is that fair? It will force everyone to join the public system. Otherwise you’ll pay for insurance twice: once for your private and once again when taxed to cover the public shortfall.
How well has gov’t flood insurance worked out??? People in flood zones now won’t buy gov’t coverage so our tax dollars subsidize their unwillingness to plan. Gov’t health insurance will be the SAME ponzi scheme.
Posted by John Reilly, on June 12th, 2009 at 9:30 am UTCWith respect to executive compensation, doesn’t the Internal Revenue Code require that expenses (including salaries) be REASONABLE in order to be deductible from income. I’m curious whether this is an in-place avenue for reigning excess pay in…
Posted by Frank Green, on June 12th, 2009 at 9:32 am UTCI don’t agree- this is NOT an isolated incident. The murder of Dr. Tiller and other vigilante acts of hate are the products of the hate rhetoric one can hear on TV, radio, and blogs. The availability of guns makes this so much easier… a terrible combo.
Posted by Kate, on June 12th, 2009 at 9:38 am UTCWhy are we referring to the Holocaust Museum shooter as a “domestic terrorist” and a “hate crime” and not the guy who killed the abortion doctor?
Posted by Dan, on June 12th, 2009 at 9:40 am UTCThe image your guest presented of the financial service industry taking “crumbs off the cake” as it passed by is not accurate….What they’ve been doing is frothing the latte while sucking the dense, sweet liquid off the bottom with a straw.
Consider the amount of money, in toto, that’s gone towards compensation/bonuses, and to what extent that has been converted to private wealth or pissed away on the gewgaws we all associate with success in this industry.
TO talk bout immigrants when this great sucking machine is in action is ridiculous.
Posted by Stephen Oakley, on June 12th, 2009 at 9:59 am UTCRE: The Us economic meltdown — The comments of your guest this morning are all great but the solution to the problem has been missed. The only reason the whole economy was put at risk is that some firms are “too big to fail”. If this wasn’t true, our capitalistic system would have corrected itself simply by the failure of those firms that took too much risk.
There are several ways to insulate taxpayers and our economy from the risky behavior of private capital. The problem is that, despite good intentions, President Obama hasn’t addressed this fundamental issue. One reason is that he relies on Lawrence Sommers, Timothy Geithner, et al for leadership and advice. They are creatures of the current economic system and probably don’t have the imagination or the will to propose significant changes in our financial structure. Further, all those now in government who are influencing economic decisions probably look forward to making a lot of money on wall street after they leave government. Thus, they have an incentive to maintain the current system which is doomed to fail us again and again.
Posted by Drew, on June 12th, 2009 at 10:08 am UTCSingle payer health care. I am childless homeowner who pays $2,000 a year in property tax, used predominantly to fund education– the education of other people’s children, and I am happy to do so because I believe in a fair society, where all should have the right to education and that through that the society, my society, is made the better for it. Shouldn’t we all also have the right not to suffer debilitating diseases, bankruptcy for unexpected illness, and all that the 45 million uninsured suffer. If anyone with children argues against single payer health care, I say it is them that are not being fair, fair to me and the countless other childless homeowners who happily contribute to universal education. Now, lets be fair.
Posted by James Askew, on June 12th, 2009 at 11:28 am UTCDuring the last view days we had a actor speaking before a republican convention before Newt, who was thanking all the extremist asspects from the right for (get this ) defending the country, telling the truth agains the evil obama admin. the people he thanked were sean hanitiy, bill oreily, glen beck, michale savage, rush L. michelle malkin, ann coulter. and the crowd cheered.
remember the report that came out about extremist groups started by the prior bush admin and than finished by the obama admin and they had to say sorry to everyone for producing it cause the right railed against it.
so far we had,, a guy killing three police officers, some kids that went hunting for mexicans and stable and killed one, a doctor hunted down and killed in a church, and now the killing at the museum and how
If the right can blame slim shady, and rap music for violent actions and inspring people to act dumb, commit crimes, surly these right-wing extremist host,radio head can be blamed as well.
i found this if anyone like to read
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7127423.stm
Posted by Mike, on June 12th, 2009 at 12:43 pm UTCalso to note when at drill we had many in my unit that fear obama and believe full heartly with Sean hanitiy and are scared obama gonna take away there guns as well when i make a logical point and show them why there source is wrong they cant believe sean or fox, radio would say lies, each month they bombard me with stuff sean h. and the likes say. the latest was that obama is forcing all companies to hire minorities and stamp all its papers with a we higher minoties stamp.
Posted by Mike, on June 12th, 2009 at 1:07 pm UTCcouldnt believe that said that i asked them for the source and they didnt have one.
I caught a bit of this morning’s on point on the way to work today. If Jim Ellis was supposed to be giving the anti-government health plan point of view, he did a horrible job. His explanation was that the government would choose what it covers based on compassion and the desire to help, while companies would base theirs on profit motive.
What he failed to mention was that the government plan could afford to be based on compassion because it will have either an implicit or explicit tie to the US Treasury. That’s what’s going to kill the private plans, not some mythical efficiencies Mr. Beatty thinks will magically appear.
Posted by Mike S, on June 12th, 2009 at 1:16 pm UTCThe health insurance or should I say health market debate is based on a lot of misinformation. The plans put forward by both houses and backed by Obama is not going to change a thing except to make it worse. Look at Massachusetts, it’s starting to fall apart because the rising costs are killing it. As far as the argument of choice goes well most people don’t have any right now, you have to deal with the list your HMO has for all your care. That argument is a red herring.
I think one way to go at it is for us, the people to have some kind of way to use our clot, that is we should be able to negotiate the costs of health care. Insurance companies need to change their charters to not for profit in the health care area. This was done in Switzerland and the system there is working very well.
Remember that no system is perfect. The one we have now is failing, that’s a fact, period. We can’t go on like this. You can’t have 60% of the people filing for bankruptcy in this country doing so because of medical bills. It’s absurd.
The sensible way forward seems to me to be a combination of both the private and government sectors. The pharmaceutical and insurance corporations are going to have be told they can’t hold the American people hostage anymore. We are going to have do things like not suing a doctor every time something goes wrong. In other words tort reform needs to be part of the program as well.
Posted by putney swope, on June 12th, 2009 at 2:46 pm UTChttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105310088
American Christian Funding Flows To Jewish Settlers
by Sheera Frenkel
June 12, 2009 · As President Obama calls on Israel to stop expanding Jewish settlements in the West Bank, support for the settlers remains strong among evangelical Christian groups across America. They are raising millions of dollars for the settlements, which critics view as a major obstacle to peace between Israel and the Palestinians.
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Wouldn’t it be easier, just to pay the Real Owners of the Land (the correct amount), as it was suggested here:
http://www.HumanGenome.org/SolutionToMiddleEast.htm
Da!
Posted by Lilya Lopekha, on June 12th, 2009 at 4:21 pm UTCRemember during the election when Obama promised everybody earning $250,000 or less would not have their taxes increased? It’s amazing that people are still drinking all the Kool-Aid that Obama is serving up.
Posted by Joe B., on June 12th, 2009 at 4:25 pm UTCThe construction worker from South Carolina blamed immigration for downward pressure on wages. But workers’ wages have been on a downward slide for far longer than the recent wave of new immigrants in the mid-1990s — which could be dated to the collapse of the Mexican peso and structural adjustment that came afterward. Our wages started sliding in the 1980s recessions made much worse by the outright attack on workers’ rights to organize under President Reagan. It’s been a horrible cycle for working people on both sides of the border.
So we need just immigration reform. We ALSO need the US government to better protect working peoples’ right to organize. Why not also ask why our President and Congress won’t take up the Employee Free Trade Act.
Posted by Kate Pfordresher, on June 12th, 2009 at 8:11 pm UTCHow did the killers in Kansas and in DC get their guns? Both shooters were convicted felons, presumably they could not obtain weapons legally. So who helped them? I think there has been a rush to label these two as lone wolves–an investigation into the provenance of their weapons might lead to another conclusion.
Posted by Bob Gardner, on June 12th, 2009 at 10:19 pm UTCyou never answered how much the 1 million jews kicked out of Arab countries would get …..
Posted by R.M., on June 12th, 2009 at 11:49 pm UTCI agree with the caller at 31:00 that the advocates of and apologists for illegal immigration and mass immigration are pathetic. When all your opponent can do is cry “racism” and “xenophobia” as opposed to acknowledging and addressing rational economic arguments, you know that he is intellectually bankrupt.
However, the show’s guest seemed to put forth the idea that nothing can be done to end illegal immigration, which is not true. If we can spend tens of billions of dollars on health care, public education, welfare, and criminal justice costs on illegal aliens then we can surely deport them or make them self-deport. We could begin fining business that hire illegals heavily and jailing their executives. We could absolutely end any and all government services for illegals. We could also declare all illegal aliens to be criminals subject to execution. (That’s extreme and I’m not advocating it, my point is that we could end the illegal immigration/invasion problem if we wanted to.)
Posted by Frank the Underemployed Professional, on June 13th, 2009 at 2:01 am UTCPart of the immigration issue can be put right into Clinton’s lap and NAFTA which gave the large corn growers the ability to dump cheap corn on the Mexican market which in turn put about a million farm workers in Mexico out of work.
For those who would advocate controlling this mess by keeping them out, I ask this question. Do you eat chicken?
Do you eat lettuce and tomato’s?
Do you want to go and work for Tyson in chicken processing plant?
A lot of the legal and illegal immigrants from south of the border do the jobs Americans don’t want to do.
Interesting thing is the Mexicans have the same problem with illegal immigrants coming over their southern border from Guatemala.
Lilya Lopekha do you only post on Israel?
Every post this person makes is an attack against Israel no matter what the subject of the program is she finds some way of twisting it to her agenda.
Then when she is called on it she gets defensive, will accuse me or anyone else for that matter of getting personal after getting personal by making unfounded accusations. If you disagree with her political ideology your in the “wrong camp” an so on.
Posted by Putney Swope, on June 13th, 2009 at 9:05 am UTCWhat most people don’t realize is that illegal aliens pay a lot of taxes (taken off their checks), will never be credited for it and will never get social security ….lets stop that myth that illegal aliens milk the system ….
Posted by R.M, on June 13th, 2009 at 10:11 am UTCRM, it defies reason that people who work for subsistence wages and whose children and themselves consume public health, education, and criminal justice dollars end up paying more in taxes than they put in.
Of course, those costs don’t include the conveniently ignored back-end costs such as the costs Americans summer from unemployment, underemployment, social costs, and higher taxes to care for Americans whose wages have been depressed and/or who have been displaced from formerly working class jobs. It’s not all agriculture; many of the illegals have displaced Americans from construction jobs, meatpacking jobs, and other jobs.
Our nation already has tens of millions of impoverished Americans. Shouldn’t we worry about providing them with jobs, health care, and education first? Shouldn’t we take care of other Americans first? If we no longer care about the well being of other Americans when why are even a nation at all?
Posted by Frank the Underemployed Professional, on June 13th, 2009 at 3:58 pm UTCThe above post should have read:
RM, it defies reason that people who work for subsistence wages and whose children and themselves consume public health, education, and criminal justice dollars end up paying more in taxes than they consume.
(Wish we had an edit function here.)
Posted by Frank the Underemployed Professional, on June 13th, 2009 at 4:00 pm UTCI was troubled by a comment by one of your guests (I don’t know who it was) regarding the shooting at the Holocaust Museum and his referral to the recent proliferation of racist hate groups. Specifically, when he referred to radio personalities like Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh as being associated with these groups, I think he was out of line. While they may be regarded as having extreme ‘political’ views, I have never heard from them even a hint of ‘racial’ discrimination whatsoever.
Posted by Jerry, on June 13th, 2009 at 4:05 pm UTCThe year is 2041, a historic event is unveiling in Washington. The stars and stripes are being lowered from the capitol for the last time. In its place is the new flag of the muti-national owners of the once USA. The new owners are China, Arabia and Mexico. Once proud Americans, now stood around dumb-founded as to how this could have happened. They asked themselves what has happened and what are we now going to do? Nothing! absolutely nothing as we did 30 years earlier when this started. China, finally foreclosed on our debt and took America as its payment. The Arabian block, with all the oil money, bought up all the stock in the country and Mexico provided all the labor for the jobs. All the Americans were rounded up and asked to leave on the first boat out. Sounds stupid, you just wait and see. Its called the Kudzu effect, Bring in something from the outside because the natives can’t get the job done. It does it job very well, in fact! it runs out the natives and chokes them out. Takes hold and spreads rapidly and once established nearly impossible to get rid of.
Posted by David, on June 13th, 2009 at 9:23 pm UTCDavid, how old are you?
Posted by Putney Swope, on June 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm UTCDavid, how old are you?
Posted by Putney Swope, on June 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm EDT
Putney, Putney, Putney
He is just making a point, because probably he would be around to see this in 2041.
The point is… we cannot continue borrowed money for ideological reasons in the way that is dictaded by neo-zions with two passports.
Technially, we say to the Chinese:
“Can we borrow two more dollars for a bullet that I am going to shoot to a muslim tomorrow morning. Payment? My kid will take care of that.”
If you don’t have any money, your Department of Offense goes Chapter 11. As simple as that.
Posted by Lilya Lopekha, on June 14th, 2009 at 1:31 pm UTC“The point is… we cannot continue borrowed money for reasons in the way that is dictaded by neo-zions with two passports.”
WHY? BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO SPEWS HATE .THAT’S WHY THERE IS SHOOTING IN THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM .
Posted by R.M, on June 14th, 2009 at 11:52 pm UTCDear friends, I am 58 years old and I hope I am not here in 2041. Yet, my mother is 87 and still babysits 3 and 5 year old grandsons. My point is, Arrogance comes before a fall. Our Nation, which I hoped would be a better place for my grandchildren, I now have my doubts it will be. I have kept my eyes and ears opened for the last several decades and I have seen our great nation begin what I hope is not its downfall. I do not make this statement without concern. To forget history is to make the mistakes of past history. No Republic or nation has lasted over 200 years, we have pushed the limit. History shows the steps in past nation’s decline, we are following step by step in the same mistake. Yet! in our arrogance we believe this could never happen. I hope that I am wrong. Instead of immigrants assimilating into Americans, we have segregated ourselves into nationalities with prefixes in front of our names. I am an American who just happens to be white, that is all. I am not Afro-American,Latino-American, Asian American, nor any other brand, just an American. How can a nation survive if it’s intent is on dividing itself. We have Chinatown, Little Havana, etc. The black/white struggle should have cured us of this mistake. We will become a nation that is not a melting pot but a boiling pot if we continue down this road of identity crisis. If we do not correct our arrogance, pride and lust for pleasures and wealth and learn to love our neighbor as ourselves, we will become history. As our founding fathers so wisely stated, “One Nation under God.” Yet, even in religion we love to divide ourselves. God must be saddened by His creation, but we are even divided amongst ourselves if He exist. Wake up America!!!! Stop all this crap and let us make this a better place.
Posted by David, on June 15th, 2009 at 7:55 pm UTC>>> Stop all this crap and let us make this a better place.<<<
I agree… outlaw AIPAC and JINSA and AEI for "threatening" and "blackmailing" our elected officials.
Posted by Lilya Lopekha, on June 16th, 2009 at 12:27 am UTC