yelling and not getting arrested for D.C. who are white as well.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32314240/ns/politics-cq_politics/

amazing enough i can find all 3 of officers abusing minorities, this shows a major issue.

As for Abe he would be considered a liberal by today’s standards agreed for helping blacks? i doubt he be part of the base of the republican party.

the dukes case only benefited people like AL Sharpeton and Ann Coulter, who both i dislike and think de value issues that effect minorities.

simple exp, at least from a personal stand point as my father lives in a wealthy upper class gated community while one of the times i was visiting him a neighbors(white) alarm went off for whatever reason when he was home a officer came i few minutes later and we watch as my father neighbor belittled the officer for bugging him and wasting his time. The response of the officer was thank you sir and walked away. should have the officer arrested him or did the officer just have thinker skin to be professional?

I ask you to show me some cases where the officers did this to blacks?

I still don’t agree with all your points, you haven’t directly answered the question I asked and you’re working under some stereotypes of your own regarding who is an Uncle Tom and who isn’t. BTW, wasn’t Abraham Lincoln a Republican? I am aware of the history, but I don’t like to use history in lieu of facts – each case has to be looked at on its own merit, otherwise we’re simply perpetuating stereotypes. Case in point: Duke University lacrosse team case, when everyone jumped on the “racism” bandwagon and then had to eat their words, though it’s telling that not many people admitted that they were wrong in waving the racism flag and apologized.

If you can give me examples where whites acting the same way as Gates did (telling a cop “you don’t know who you’re dealing with”, calling him a racist), were not arrested by the police, then that would be the clearest indicator that Sgt. Crowley acted in a racist manner. Whereas I can give you many examples where both black and white people have been arrested when they acted in a disorderly manner. The issue is abuse of power here, not racism.

And good for you and all the liberals that it wasn’t a female cop who arrested Gates. Now that would’ve been fun.

if u wish, the problem with the gates case was

1) he was arrested after it was confirmed he was the owner of the house. As most are aware it was wrong to do yet crowley and other officers stood by it.

2) It turns out by the witness and her lawyers admission that she said nothing of the mens race and stated over and over again it looked like suit cases, yet in sgt crowely report it was stated the witness(same on) stated it was 2 black men with back packs in there house.

3) A officer should have tougher skin if someone yells at them otherwise arresting someone for disorderly conduct(yelling at their house) seems like the officer abused there power.

4) Based on these three things, even the first is big one, one could think that there a racial profiling, biased going on.

5) the apologist like u like to call people stated that gates should have stayed mute and caressed the officers ego, or it was in the officers right to arrest gates or worst(go back to prior post to see)

6) Just cause their is a black police officers does not automatically mean they will report or say what they are really thinking,or like some units in the military, you never rat on a fellow officers(know as the wall of Blue)

7) Because this wall of blue is supported by many in our society believe it is for the betterment for unit Cohesion and trust within the force, it enables some to abuse their power and while others may know its wrong say nothing otherwise face being singled out for the rest or not having their back watched.

Because of this many in the minorities communties know that justice will not be served and or other officers will cover for their fellow, showing a unit first than civilans, justice second. This can be seen almost all the time.

9) this case brought out some real racist such as Justin Barret from the boston police department, who sent a nasty email to a boston global reporter, along with fellow officers, and other National guard memembers(which is troubling) would u agree?

10) until the wall of blue is broken than black, Latino, White, Green Cops will stick up for there own majority of the time or face being a outcast.

11) Hench it always questionable to hear officers black or whatever sticking up of questionable actions(stated above)

12) I myself is bi-racial and i see Michael steele as a uncle-tom as well as supreme court Justice T. who would sell out for power, wealth or prestige or can be assumed in the gates case that nice blue wall.

13) Also there were some black police officer unions that spoke out against it, they got little pres and were called many names for it, (fresh air last week i think).

14) as you state with Republicans and democratic, most people mostly white feel and are shocked to find out cops are abusing there power and will be apologist to almost the very end when there do.

15) why are Black republican often refer to uncle tom’s as if you know the history of the south you understand that label, as currently and been for a long time, the base of the repbulican party has been very racist towards blacks, example the stuff monkeys handed out to republican rallies saying it was obama, the watermelon pictures google if u like to see,the name calling of spook, uppity,terrorist fist jab and many others i prefer not say, Yet we have some Black republican that try and cling to the party, and say nothing when such things occur, apologizes (steele) to Far-right host, and suck up in hopes of gain some type of power,or acknowledgment from people who quite frankly dont like them deeming them with the title of a uncle tom.

You can check out the hip-hop republican web-site were there was begging for the republican party to include them and hopefully there acknowledge them, claiming the party of Lincoln and martin Luther yet totally against what Lincoln and Luther stood for.

Black folks have known for the longest time, the dynamic of being harassed by a couple of black and white police officers together on patrol.Shoul i say more?”
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OK, explain this to me. This is not the first time I’ve heard such thoughts expressed. What it boils down to is that you are convinced beyond doubt that there was racism involved in this particular incident, and if anyone disagrees (like the black cop) then that’s laughable, because, well, how will that black cop know racism? (And there’s 100% certainty and no doubt whatsoever that the good professor is above any wrongdoing because he teaches at Hahvahd.) So the black person’s (the cop) thoughts and views on racism – when they go against your view – are invalid and dismissed – and he has to play Uncle Tom to either the leftists or the rightists to gain acceptance.

If he says there was racism – he’s agreeing with you and being an Uncle Tom.

If he says there was no racism, he’s saying that because he’s an Uncle Tom to the conservatives by disagreeing with you.

According to your logic, it’s a no-win situation for the blacks if they disagree with the left, and they have to go by what the whites tell them.

Nice one there, wavre. I bet you’re also white and blind to white privilege which expresses itself by calling those blacks who happen to disagree with people like you on the issue of racism, Uncle Toms.

And here I thought that the left was a champion of the working class. *head-slap*

A poll just came out and only 42 percent of republicans believe obama is a U.S. citizen,goes to show a indication of where the parties at and whoses running it.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/01/Poll-Birthers-Republicans-Southerners/UPI-70871249143676/

I hope everyone realizes that the extremist currently run the party and anything moderate will not be coming out of the republican party for awhile.

I second “Bryan’s” (Aug 1 @~2am, above) suggestion for an unvarnished status report for getting a wider perspective on
our current healcare ’system’:

http://www.pbs.org/healthcarecrisis/Exprts_intrvw/m_angell.htm

An excerpt: “… we spend over twice what the next most expensive country spends on health care — that’s Switzerland. We spend roughly $4500 for every American, whether they have insurance or not. Switzerland spends maybe $2500 for every citizen. Canada spends maybe $2,000. Great Britain, poor little Great Britain, spends about $1,000 for every British citizen. And what do we get for it? What do we get for that $4500? Well, we certainly don’t get our money’s worth. We have roughly 43 million people with no insurance whatsoever, and among the rest of us, many of us are underinsured. That is, we have shrinking packages. This might be covered, but that won’t be covered.

Our life expectancy is shorter. Our infant mortality is higher. Our childhood immunization rate is lower. And look at how often we get to see the doctor, how long we get to stay in the hospital. Canadians see their doctors far more often than we do. Americans really can’t afford to go see their doctor. There’s always some co-payment, some deductible, or they have to pay out of pocket, or something isn’t covered. But in Canada, where everybody is covered for everything, they go to the doctor much more often. When they are hospitalized, their hospital stays are longer…”

Single-Payer is reform.

http://www.pnhp.org/facts/what_is_single_payer.php

Obama has promised to end this covert crap against Iran.

US Special Ops got about $400,000,000.00 for Regime Changes. Still the Secrecy goes on.

When US Military went the Kurdish region in full force last week, they knew who they were looking for – the identities. The story is “one of them had health issues and he stayed back”.

Iranians say that he also crossed the border, but he was sent back.

Good Job Media!!! Who came up with the word “hiker” vs. meteorolgists, bird watchers, doctors looking for indigent patients. One person behind a desk, came up with the word “hikers”, and Media never questions “Who” were these people and why in the world they are “still unidentified”.

If they were really Hikers, everybody would have been looking at their Facebook pages, and the mothers and sisters would have been on TV Shows all over.

Very Fishy!!!

And the laughable argument:” look a black policeman was also at the scene!!”

Black folks have known for the longest time, the dynamic of being harassed by a couple of black and white police officers together on patrol.Shoul i say more?

What do you do with the disabled who can’t afford to cover up to $10,000. People over 65 have spent their entire working lives contributing to the SS and Medicare. It’s not their fault that the government spent the money in the trust.

Bummer. Three innocent hikers originally wanted to go to appalachian trail in Argentina. But CIA did not want to pay for pleasure trips. Instead they decided to sneak into Ahmedinejad’s Iran and cause trouble. Now they are caught.

It is time for us to use the media and call the State Depatment for their release. Because anybody with an American Passport has to be Good and innocent, but Iranians are Evil. These hiker guys should start (fake) hunger-strike immediately [CIA Ref Manual, page 894]. Sisters should hit the TV shows (if they are in the US), with their hiker brothers’ childhood pictures. The goldfish and the Labradors are waiting for their masters to return home from Iranian custody.

ps. did not say that they are (really) Americans!!!

I mention this as feed back for whoever makes the decision on finding a stand in On Point host. Surely there are others more suited.

http://www.pbs.org/healthcarecrisis/Exprts_intrvw/m_angell.htm

The interview was conducted some time ago, but her perceptive comments are even more relevant today. Hers is a much-needed voice of reason.

Single payer is the way to go for real reform.

As long as any mention of a single-payer plan remains verboten, then no reform of any real merit will be accomplished. And President Obama, like Bill Clinton before him, will have lost a chance to do something great. Real reform does not come about through mindless compromising with the very elements of society who are steadfastly opposed to any and all reforms worthy of the name. Read Dr. Marcia Angell’s hard-hitting thoughts on this subject for more enlightening views. She should be interviewed on “On Point.”

And then what Janet? What’s your plan to fix this mess.