http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/2079-swine-flu-the-risks-and-efficacy-of-vaccines

…Aromatherapy sprays??? We do not even fully understand the olfactory system. And, what we do know is that responses are very individual. One person can smell rosemary and be calmed by it, another invigorated by it, another can be allergic to it, someone could have been raped in a patch of rosemary and really have an adverse response to it!

Herbals are better and some are safe, some are not. The main problem with herbals is titration: getting an assured, even dose from ingestion to ingestion. Also, herbals haven’t been studied enough to determine how they interact with other medicinal applications.

The other problem with folks espousing wonders of herbal medicine, when they claim anything with immune bolstering qualities, is that they presume the marginal help from something ingested will be enough to ward off illness, or they wrongly believe that all illness is the result of a weak immune system. As an adjunct, some herbal medicines can be reasonable (rose hips and lemon grass are loaded with vitamin C that is not derived from ascorbic acid, for example), although too much vitamin C can increase urinary tract infections in women; some are right down dangerous: St. John’s Wort will interfere with asthma medication that is administered daily and can temporarily destroy a person’s adrenal gland’s ability to produce steroids which can ruin a person’s immune system and make him/her vulnerable to all sorts of illnesses.

“4 Thieves which contains lemon, rosemary, eucalyptus, clove and cinnamon oils) was used in the middle ages to protect people from the plagues.”

Yeah! People used this in the middle ages to protect from plague! Look how well it worked, too! Only 25% of Europe died from it.

According to the Centers for Disease Control:

“There is no convincing scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site.”

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/updates/thimerosal.htm

The government is paying for the vaccine, the needles and syringes..paying to the pharm companies.

They have a clause that you can not sue. The pharm companies are not liable for what happens to you if you take it.

They are, again, using the medical community as guinea pigs. We will be forced to take this or lose our jobs.

This show basically dismissed a nurse who made an interview about not wanting it as ‘nervous’.

I do not want to be forced to take this.

One thing people don’t seem to get is that medicine has progressed a “bunch” in the last 90 years. 1) There are organizations like the CDC to identify and characterize these diseases, then spread the info at the speed of light, not the speed of a surface ship; 2) Treatment of victims, at least in advanced countries, allows many who would have succumbed in 1918 to survive, resulting in a much lower mortality rate.

Even the almost universal awareness of the pandemic mitigates against it

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_19045.cfm

Protect yourself from this vaccine and don’t get it. There are alternatives to protecting one’s health such as using immune-building herbs, aromatherapy sprays (4 Thieves which contains lemon, rosemary, eucalyptus, clove and cinnamon oils) was used in the middle ages to protect people from the plagues. And homeopathy proves useful too, and you can always wear a surgical mask.

I was wondering last night how wacked scientists and the medical profession is to spray a live vaccine up people’s noses. If they sneeze the virus spreads, does it not?

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/how-safe-is-the-hpv-vaccine/

I think it’s because there has been so much money and hype pumped into ‘inoculating everybody’ that potential problems are being overlooked–just like in 1976. Others have mentioned the lack of liability for the manufacturing companies. If the vaccine is safe beyond a doubt, why can’t someone sue if there is a side effect? This vaccine was probably manufactured in China, and it was manufactured quickly. After the melamine in the milk, poison in the toothpaste and lead in the toys, I’m taking a pass on the vaccine, myself. I’ll take my chances with the flu and then maybe take the vaccine next season, once the safety has been proven.

August 2009-Vitamin D3 deficiency and its role in influenza
http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs026/1102452079631/archive/1102685428884.html
Sept 2009-More on Vitamin D3 and influenza
http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs026/1102452079631/archive/1102728693089.html

If these links don’t work you can go to http://www.vitaminD3world.com and click on ‘In the news” to find the articles.

Thermisol is a preservative. One of the components of Thermisol is mercury. That has some folks worried about mercury poisoning. Scientific studies indicate that there is no connection between Thermisol and adverse outcomes following a vaccination. Internet chatter keeps that rumor very much alive. (I expect I’ll be chastised for stating this truth).

If your sister is worried, the H1N1 vaccine is being made w/o Thermisol, though in small quantities. The intranasal version does not have Thermisol. The intranasal is only approved for folks between the ages of 2 years and 49 years who are otherwise healthy. However, early indications are that the intranasal H1N1 vaccine may not be as effective in people over 4 years of age.

Lots to consider, which is why your sister needs to consult her ob/gyn (for herself) and her child’s pediatrician with regard to the options.

No doubt, the same reading approach you apply to the adverse reactions, warnings, and contraindications info found on vaccine inserts, huh?

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/10/china_as_seen_by_elizabeth_dal.html#photo25

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/10/china_as_seen_by_elizabeth_dal.html#photo26

The fact that some of it is being produced in China won’t stop me from getting it.

Here’s an article which provides additional links to other hard data as well: http://www.vaccinationdangers.com/2009/03/vaccine-studies-under-the-infl.php

Don’t be so naive. If vaccines are so unquestionably safe and beneficial, then why have pharmaceutical companies lobbied (or, more accurately, blackmailed) the government—successfully, I might add—to pass laws to protect them from litigation for damages caused by their vaccines? Even if one can prove a claim that a vaccine is the direct cause of injury, Big Pharma has been immunized from strict liability. As things currently stand, any decision rendered to compensate a victim for said damage is now rendered as an administrative process, with any compensation awarded being disbursed through the federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP). Due process through a judicial proceeding is no longer available to victims. Here’s a enlightening article regarding how the typical VICP case is handled: http://vaccineawakening.blogspot.com/2007/06/mmr-vaccine-victim-in-us-claims-court.html

There is also a plethora of evidence that indicates vaccines are not as safe or effective as the manufacturers would have us believe. But, aside from all of the research on either side of this issue, common sense is all that’s required to conclude that mercury is toxic, and that ethyl mercury is a known neuro-toxin. As such, any introduction of it into the human physiology carries an unjustified risk—especially for the delicate physiology of a developing infant/toddler. Parents who blindly immunize their children without first evaluating the possible consequences of these risks are irresponsible. Preach your “vaccines are safe” sermon to an individual who has been a victim of injury from a vaccine; then ask them if they think the risk was worth the benefit that was touted to them.

As a token of my appreciation for the lively discussion, I offer you my allotment of vaccine in the event of a “shortage”—just tell ‘em Todd sent you.

Be well mon ami!…in spite of your decision.